Keypad and pir upgrade for scantronic 9651

[Andy cb 4]

8 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

thats a ventcroft vision sab its the green nicd pack on the left

there is an orange iirc jumper that disconnects it

Am I right in thinking the iirc jumper is the orange resistor type thing in here

[aissecur 22]

15 hours ago, Andy cb said:

What do you mean by that  al-yeti

He's merely trying to protect you....

If your insurance specifies it is maintained by say a "nsi installer" for example then that what you need to do or change insurer for one that doesn't have the requirement (or inform the current insurer it is not maintained)

[Andy cb 4]

I’ve read policy and spoken to insurance i can maintain myself and as said before I do get minimal discount but something is better than nothing 

[james.wilson 571]

no its not a resistor its a jumper

[aissecur 22]

1 minute ago, Andy cb said:

I’ve read policy and spoken to insurance i can maintain myself and as said before I do get minimal discount but something is better than nothing 

Good, better to have the conversation... IMHO Insurance companies love to take your money but are not so keen in giving it back

[Andy cb 4]

1 minute ago, james.wilson said:

no its not a resistor its a jumper

No I know that but I’d it in the area I marked in the second picture

[james.wilson 571]

1 minute ago, Andy cb said:

No I know that but I’d it in the area I marked in the second picture

yes

[Andy cb 4]

4 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

yes

Does it simply pull out

[Logan 51]

14 minutes ago, Andy cb said:

Does it simply pull out

Yes.  Make sure not to lose it

 

Edited November 14, 2019 by Logan

[Andy cb 4]

21 minutes ago, Logan said:

Yes.  Make sure not to lose it

 

Ok done that thanks Logan 

 

so I have powered down entirely

main fuse battery backup and extreme rain siren battery 

 

I have wired in new keypad as old 9930 was dead 

 

can I now default reset to give me back engineer code?

 

and if so am best to use jumpers to short kick start and nvs pins

Edited November 14, 2019 by Andy cb

[Logan 51]

Just now, Andy cb said:

Ok done that thanks Logan 

 

so I have powered down entirely

main fuse battery backup and extreme rain siren battery 

 

I have wired in new keypad as old 9930 was dead 

 

can I now default reset to give me back engineer code?

Yes.  ALSO BEWARE THIS WILL WIPE THE PROGRAMMING. 

[Andy cb 4]

Just now, Logan said:

Yes.  ALSO BEWARE THIS WILL WIPE THE PROGRAMMING. 

Now I read on another forum that there is a type of reset that doesn’t wipe programming 

[Logan 51]

Just now, Andy cb said:

Now I read on another forum that there is a type of reset that doesn’t wipe programming 

Yes there is engineer reset and code reset. DO NOT DO ENGINEER RESET your system will have to be completely reprogrammed if you do that

[Andy cb 4]

Just now, Logan said:

Yes there is engineer reset and code reset. DO NOT DO ENGINEER RESET your system will have to be completely reprogrammed if you do that

Ok so I used to have user code but that doesn’t seam to work anymore how do I reset to give me back default user and engineer coax to I can work on the system 

[Logan 51]

12 minutes ago, Andy cb said:

Ok so I used to have user code but that doesn’t seam to work anymore how do I reset to give me back default user and engineer coax to I can work on the system 

Default user code is ###REMOVED###

Edited November 14, 2019 by sixwheeledbeast
No default codes please.

[Andy cb 4]

11 minutes ago, Logan said:

Default user code is ##REMOVED##

But I haven’t reset anything yet I have the lid of the external and all powered down still 

 

what should be my next step

Edited November 14, 2019 by sixwheeledbeast

[Logan 51]

2 minutes ago, Andy cb said:

But I haven’t reset anything yet I have the lid of the external and all powered down still 

 

what should be my next step

We cant tell you in the general public area for ovious reasons 

[Andy cb 4]

6 minutes ago, Logan said:

We cant tell you in the general public area for ovious reasons 

Is this my next step

 

Edited November 14, 2019 by sixwheeledbeast
No defaulting information - please see our guidelines

[al-yeti 417]

2 hours ago, Andy cb said:

I’ve read policy and spoken to insurance i can maintain myself and as said before I do get minimal discount but something is better than nothing 

Now this is biggest blag I ever heard 

[datadiffusion 520]

Agree sounds like the best get out of jail free card for the insurer I've ever heard of!

[james.wilson 571]

Must admit ive never known an insurer accept a non certificated system for anything. Hope its the actual insurer and in writing not the broker or call

[datadiffusion 520]

Yep sounds like the sort of flannel an outsourced CS would come up with to get someone off the line and onto the next call.

[Andy cb 4]

37 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

Yep sounds like the sort of flannel an outsourced CS would come up with to get someone off the line and onto the next call.

It was direct line guys I explained that I had inherited the system when I moved in I’d had a local installed come and reset it and service it when I moved in so I could use it and they where happy with that and I had received around a £50 per year discount on my premium simply by telling them I have an alarm fitted 

 

touch wood I’ve never had situation where it has ever needed to be brought into question but thank you all for your help and concerns system is all back and working just fine now and with the upgrades I’d asked for help and advice on 

I would have got my local installer to do it but I think he has retired as I haven’t been able to get in touch for a couple of years and can’t fined another at a sensible price point 

[james.wilson 571]

Glad your all sorted

[al-yeti 417]

1 hour ago, Andy cb said:

It was direct line guys I explained that I had inherited the system when I moved in I’d had a local installed come and reset it and service it when I moved in so I could use it and they where happy with that and I had received around a £50 per year discount on my premium simply by telling them I have an alarm fitted 

 

touch wood I’ve never had situation where it has ever needed to be brought into question but thank you all for your help and concerns system is all back and working just fine now and with the upgrades I’d asked for help and advice on 

I would have got my local installer to do it but I think he has retired as I haven’t been able to get in touch for a couple of years and can’t fined another at a sensible price point 

They will give anyone a discount who says they have an alarm installed , problem is when you come to claim 

 

Total blag sorry lol but it is how it is