Shadrack Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 Changed to wire links. Reset config, disabled box tamper, let it boot up, reset time/date, all zone lights showed unlit. So progress I think? I then proceeded to add zone 3 (passage) as it's easier to test that while I'm busy with it since the keypad is 1m away from it. configured that zone as an interior instant NC. (Is this correct? it's the PIR from previous PIR picture), it does not detect when I stand there. the sensor itself lights up, the zone on the keypad does not. Also, that trouble light is illuminated still. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 Alright I've made some progress! Might make it easier. I've assembled a TTL to USB device and mapped the COM 1 port on the 412 and managed to hack it all together so I can use Wintex to see the panel. Now to figure how to go from there Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 The firmware on the panel is Premier 412 Version 7.1, would updating be possible for such an old panel? without bricking it. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shadrack said: The firmware on the panel is Premier 412 Version 7.1, would updating be possible for such an old panel? without bricking it. Forget firmware update no point  Now you know wire links allowed faults to clear because it's not setup for resistors  Possibly  But carry on , if you manage to programme it fine  If not you can use without resistors and global tamper if it has it  DIY no big deal how you do it 1 hour ago, Shadrack said: Changed to wire links. Reset config, disabled box tamper, let it boot up, reset time/date, all zone lights showed unlit. So progress I think? I then proceeded to add zone 3 (passage) as it's easier to test that while I'm busy with it since the keypad is 1m away from it. configured that zone as an interior instant NC. (Is this correct? it's the PIR from previous PIR picture), it does not detect when I stand there. the sensor itself lights up, the zone on the keypad does not. Also, that trouble light is illuminated still. Also you need to remove the resistor from the PIR , if your doing it without resistors,  If you join and open wire atnpir end that should open and close the zone , perhaps pirs are shot Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 I've measured the resistance over the wires for zone 3, 3.3k, then when someone walks in front of it, changes to open circuit. PIR seems fine. Rechecked wiring. Seem's correct. used multimeter on panel side to confirm the same (in case a wire broke in the ceiling etc), works fine. I wire it up to zone 3 on the panel, so I should program it to: Zone: 03 zone type: 04 Interior instant zone wiring: Single EOL - N/C Partition: 1 Attributes 1: Enable Bell, Enable Instant Strobe, Enable transmission Attributes 2: Enable Manual Bypass, Enable stay bypass Attributes 3: none Zone text: passage  correct? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I imagine Single EOL S/C is the type you want Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 I've tried all, unless I select Normally Open, all list as "active", even when using jumpers direct from com to zone. Any advice on that? I am very confused at this point. PS, thanks for all your help so far everyone. I've indeed made progress through your help! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 There is a table in the wiring section to explain each wiring type and the state they should be. Single EOL S/C seems to be correct for your explanation. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Shadrack said: I've tried all, unless I select Normally Open, all list as "active", even when using jumpers direct from com to zone. Any advice on that? I am very confused at this point. PS, thanks for all your help so far everyone. I've indeed made progress through your help! Single eolwould mean put resistor back in PIR if you removed it Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 Does anyone have the newer firmware for the 412? I can only find the firmware for Premier elite, which this is not. trying to fix the issue of even all shorted, all zones say active/trouble Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43021-texecom-old-premierveritas/page/4/#findComment-487498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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