July 30, 20179 yr comment_466701 Hi, I have a couple of Pyronix Equinox E dual tec PIR's that have been great; however I'm now finding that they are becoming less sensitive during walk test (but no false alarms though). In fairness they're 20+ years old.... Is such behaviour the norm, and if so I've been looking at Pyronix KX15DT's - are these a worthy replacement? One last question - the Equinox E states a relay contact via a 4.7 ohm series resistor, yet the KX15DT incorporates selectable alarm resistor values of 6K8, 5K6, 4K7 &1K & tamper values of 5K6, 4K7, 2K2 and 1K. So what should I select? My panel tech spec. quotes a "Zone Activation Resistance" of 2Kohms (minimum)" if that's of help. Many thanks in advance polybear01 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr comment_466703 I have known older Pyronix sensors to decrease there coverage with age so it is a good idea to consider upgrading. I imagine most DT's would be suitable replacements. If your panel in double pole you are likely not to need selecting of any resistance and wire like for like. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466703 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr Author comment_466704 Many thanks; the zone type is described as "Normally closed loops which activate when opened or connected to 0 volts from dc power supply" - nothing about double pole though? polybear01 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466704 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr comment_466705 2 minutes ago, polybear01 said: "Normally closed loops which activate when opened or connected to 0 volts from dc power supply" - nothing about double pole though? same thing 9 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: sensors to decrease there coverage with age I assume the range has pot on it? Adjusting pot min to max a dozen times will probably see it right ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466705 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr Author comment_466707 Many thanks for the tip - it's sorted one but the other appears dead, so a new one (or possibly 2, bearing in mind postage costs being the same for 1 or 2, and they're only 20 quid each anyway) is needed. polybear01 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466707 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr comment_466708 iirc Pyronix had issues with the lens degrading. You used to be able to get replacement lens securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466708 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr comment_466709 I have tried messing with the pot before but you seem to only get a few extra years out of them. Also been to a good few that have stuck active with the circuit board red hot, more of a reason to get them replaced. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466709 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr Author comment_466711 This is the cheapest I've found, once delivery is included - unless anyone can advise otherwise? https://www.citysecuritysystems.co.uk/pyronix-dual-tech polybear01 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466711 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr comment_466712 1 hour ago, polybear01 said: Many thanks for the tip Just a temp fix, Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466712 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
July 30, 20179 yr comment_466713 30 minutes ago, james.wilson said: iirc Pyronix I really like controls with a castle heritage, but there a great commercial success rather than best product. Mr Veritas God Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/41439-dual-tec-pirs-getting-insensitive-on-walk-test/#findComment-466713 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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