Getting sub contractors

[installer_dale 1]

As I'm growing the business I've started to need extra labourers.

 

For the last 9 months I've been paying 3 trusted people I know to help out as and when (usually 1 day a week). This is mainly clipping cable etc they have no technical expertise, although are learning. I'm paying about £130 for a full day.  They cant give much more time than this.

 

Eventually I want to employ but it's too soon. Maybe zero hours for now.

 

I'm going limited this year and hoping to get SSAIB next year. At the moment it's a husband and wife self employed setup.

 

However from reading on here it seems sub contractors are popular. If I can pay a sub to go to a site and fit an alarm to the SDP all by himself it seems too good to be true.

 

I haven't got perfect physical health so as time goes on I will need more help with the work.

 

Have I got the right idea on this? What are the going rates in South Yorkshire and how would I find one?

 

Thanks

[james.wilson 711]

if you believe the hype its 240 a day ish

[installer_dale 1]

I was expecting 150 to 200 from what id read on here although threads are getting on 10 years old.

 

Maybe I should just start employing

[Amps 39]

20 hours ago, installer_dale said:

This is mainly clipping cable etc they have no technical expertise, although are learning. I'm paying about £130 for a full day.  

 

 

 

 

Good work if you can get it imo.

[installer_dale 1]

31 minutes ago, Amps said:

 

Good work if you can get it imo.

No one seems to want it 

[PeterJames 650]

We pay between £200 and £260 a day, but most of them are really busy and have a three or four week lead time so you have to plan ahead. I booked one for a week a few weeks back when one of our installers booked his holiday, but a week before he was due to start we had to reschedule a large second fix because there was not going to be mains on site , so it sort of worked out that we wouldnt need him. I had plenty of other work for him but he called and asked if I still needed him and I said that I didnt really but did I have work for him, he said dont worry I have lots of work elsewhere. 

[james.wilson 711]

I don't think its that high. different areas

120 here

[Pedders 0]

Is that for a labourer James?

[james.wilson 711]

Just now, Pedders said:

Is that for a labourer James?

No, everything but commissioning. 

[PeterJames 650]

On 6/25/2017 at 10:33 PM, james.wilson said:

I don't think its that high. different areas

120 here

He calls me tight

[james.wilson 711]

your the tightest man in the world, but you do have a jaaag

[PeterJames 650]

10 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

your the tightest man in the world, but you do have a jaaag

I prefer to say I'm fair, I dont like the thought of anyone loosing sleep over owing me 

[james.wilson 711]

agreed but how are you when owed

 

[installer_dale 1]

On 2017-6-25 at 10:33 PM, james.wilson said:

I don't think its that high. different areas

120 here

 

On 2017-6-25 at 2:23 AM, james.wilson said:

if you believe the hype its 240 a day ish

 

which is which?

[al-yeti 502]

5 minutes ago, installer_dale said:

 

 

which is which?

120 a day he gets it lashed in time for tea 

[james.wilson 711]

Its hard to say. Some come on here as subbies on 300 quid a day, some employed say they are on a 35k basic.

From my end I rarely use subcontractors and if its was 300 quid I wouldn't.

But subbies that can complete a job for you (I wouldn't) is imo 180ish

But id rather employ people so the quality is controlled. Subcontracting is a nightmare if you want quality 

2 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

120 a day he gets it lashed in time for tea 

one of sia's best jobs I'm sure I uploaded his conduit work

[james.wilson 711]

That's the thing here, its not real world, we all earn 100k, drive Bentleys and only work for 500 quid a day

[whistle 50]

We used a couple of subbies recently on a fire job on a high school. To be honest they have done a 1st class job and at reasonable rates.

 

Far better than my last experience OX.

[al-yeti 502]

19 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

120 a day he gets it lashed in time for tea 

Of course if you get threatened it's lashed in at half the price 

[norman 1,053]

30 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

That's the thing here, its not real world, we all earn 100k, drive Bentleys and only work for 500 quid a day

I know a subby who used to rock up at the office in his Bentley, I piss you not.

[PeterJames 650]

46 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

agreed but how are you when owed

 

Right you asked for this, so dont blame me for lack of sleep tonight!

 

I havent even sent you an invoice for the access control stuff yet

[james.wilson 711]

58 minutes ago, whistle said:

We used a couple of subbies recently on a fire job on a high school. To be honest they have done a 1st class job and at reasonable rates.

 

Far better than my last experience OX.

Sometimes it looks good then you open things up and worry what the rest of it is like 

[datadiffusion 613]

37 minutes ago, norman said:

I know a subby who used to rock up at the office in with his Bentley, I piss you not.

 

Fixed.

 

[james.wilson 711]

34 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

Right you asked for this, so dont blame me for lack of sleep tonight!

 

I havent even sent you an invoice for the access control stuff yet

lol 

[norman 1,053]

6 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

Fixed.

 

Used to have dozens upon dozens of those bad boys in my area.