But a mat would be better than nothing?

yes but if you can buy each for about the same price why would you

I wouldn't

13 hours ago, james.wilson said:

yes but if you can buy each for about the same price why would you

But you cant one is cheaper than the other, in this day and age its the mat, but back when pirs first came out the pir was much more expensive. It is the same with 1 way versus 2 way one is cheaper than the other. I do understand the difference between 1 way and two way, but one could  that really the OP should not be looking at wireless at all and should really have grade 3 anti-mask hard wired detectors with dual path web way monitoring and a smoke cloak. Alternately he could not bother with an alarm at all and employ a couple of ex SAS to guard his property 24/7. But my guess would be the cost outweighs the risk which is my point.

Within 10 years, wireless is pretty much going to be the only future for 95% of new installations I'd argue.

 

In the same way that most broadband modems don't have anything connected to their ethernet ports, and many don't really know what they are for.

 

But 1 way wireless is definitely the past. if you are going to choose wireless, it's like buying an Escort the same year they launched the Focus.

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by datadiffusion

Sorry to ask a stupid question. Visonic only uses 1 way RF signal? The discussion is about the RF signal used by the alarm control unit. Is this signal that get transmitted from control unit to each devices in the alarm network. Does this make it is less secure to the 2 way. 

The Pyronix Enforcer and Texecom Premier Elite is a 2 way system and would give me better security for my home.

 

 

There are loads of topics on 2 way and which is 2 way system offers x vs y etc.

 

20 minutes ago, alanfox said:

Sorry to ask a stupid question. Visonic only uses 1 way RF signal? The discussion is about the RF signal used by the alarm control unit. Is this signal that get transmitted from control unit to each devices in the alarm network. Does this make it is less secure to the 2 way. 

The Pyronix Enforcer and Texecom Premier Elite is a 2 way system and would give me better security for my home.

 

 

With two way the detectors know when the panel is armed/disarmed so uses less battery power. The polling information between device and control is also better. Probably the most important bit is the fact that with one way there is a delay in detection operation after it has operated, this is to save battery power, the detector sees you move it reports it to the panel then it shuts down for 30 seconds, so in theory when you arm the system some of your detectors will not work for up to thirty seconds after the system is armed. Two way is more superior to one way but it will still work, and to say that is no good at all is like saying I have to get rid of my LCD TV and buy a LED one because LED uses less electricity, and the picture quality is better. So long as you can still watch ceebeebies does it really matter that much? 

Sorry to ask a stupid question. Visonic only uses 1 way RF signal? The discussion is about the RF signal used by the alarm control unit. Is this signal that get transmitted from control unit to each devices . . Does this make it is less secure to the 2 way. 

The Pyronix Enforcer and Texecom Premier Elite is a 2 way system and would give me better securiity.

 

12 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

 Probably the most important bit is the fact that with one way there is a delay in detection operation after it has operated, this is to save battery power, the detector sees you move it reports it to the panel then it shuts down for 30 seconds, so in theory when you arm the system some of your detectors will not work for up to thirty seconds after the system is armed. 

Two way does not do the above as the detectors only become live when the panel is armed or in walk test 

7 minutes ago, alanfox said:

Sorry to ask a stupid question. Visonic only uses 1 way RF signal? The discussion is about the RF signal used by the alarm control unit. Is this signal that get transmitted from control unit to each devices . . Does this make it is less secure to the 2 way. 

The Pyronix Enforcer and Texecom Premier Elite is a 2 way system and would give me better securiity.