ElecTech Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Is Dahua suitable for big IP installations and does anyone have any experience using there 256CH NVR? Seems they are low end of the market in some peoples eyes but they have the scope to do the big installs too....? Never used them for big installs but there low end kit seems good. If not - what are the leading brands for a decent size IP installation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I have sold and installed a large system using Windows servers and Milestone Enterprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 We are about to use dahua for all our IP stuff now. We did use genie, but it's too limited for what we need and we have had quite a few faulty cameras..... Currently have a 64 channel on the bench and impressed, twin LAN, twin hdmi etc. Also like the cms software. Jut need to try it monitored but I'm sure it will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElecTech Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, 9651 said: We are about to use dahua for all our IP stuff now. We did use genie, but it's too limited for what we need and we have had quite a few faulty cameras..... Currently have a 64 channel on the bench and impressed, twin LAN, twin hdmi etc. Also like the cms software. Jut need to try it monitored but I'm sure it will be fine Good to hear ... I like there CMS too, looks professional yet easy enough to use. I don't like genie ... Not got a main reason I just do - nothing I can put my finger on but dislike it as a brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Genie is OK but personally don't like the user interface, bit quirky and looks old fashioned/cheap. Also the same with the cms picture quality of the IP stuff is fine mind, juts seemed to get lots of failures on the gunmetal domes for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastengineer Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 48 minutes ago, ElecTech said: Is Dahua suitable for big IP installations and does anyone have any experience using there 256CH NVR? Seems they are low end of the market in some peoples eyes but they have the scope to do the big installs too....? Never used them for big installs but there low end kit seems good. If not - what are the leading brands for a decent size IP installation? I would be very wary of putting 256 cameras on one NVR what is the throughput on one of these. We keep on coming up against people who recommend putting 50+ 3 & 4mp cameras on 64ch NVRS which have 150mb total throughput which just does not work. For our larger systems we use Avigilon and build our own servers never has any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QSXS Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I would be looking as spanning the system across multiple switches, servers and some form of fallback redundancy. So a single Switch / Server fault does not take you whole system down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Another vote for Milestone + Dell Server We've recently created a Cisco blade "security" server with router/firewall, VMWare with servers for Milestone CCTV, Paxton Net2 for access. Nice one "box" solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 alpat whats your thoughts om virtualbox? Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastengineer Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Have any Milestone users also used Avigilon? would like to know opinions on what performs better. Not used Milstone but looks good kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, james.wilson said: alpat whats your thoughts om virtualbox? We did briefly look at oracle VB, but the lack of support was an issue. Obviously cost wise VB wins hands down. VB is great for desktop virtualisation, VMWare for enterprise solutions VMWare also does quite a lot more, and is considerably quicker From what I remember the main issue for us with VB was controlling hardware ports through each virtualised server Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 is that mainly cos of hv management vs hv performance? Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 sorry hv = vm Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) VMWare management using VSphere (desktop client) is simple. On each Virtual server you can set max/min CPU, memory, LAN usage. So for CCTV we priorities LAN bandwidth, but not processor and memory. Its so easy to monitor everything through one client. Typical VMWare setup: ESX server host Virtual Centre Server Virtual Infrastructure (VI) client Web Browser License Server Database Edited May 11, 2016 by Alpat Systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 i would agree that vSphere is better it does seem expensive just for a cctv vs. Id also agree that it allows much better resource management But i use vbox for all my vm's and last time i used VMware stuff was back at v2 Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Top image is, show the old Milestone server at the bottom as we prepared to move it onto the new virtual server. Bottom image is it moved into new sound/dust proof cabinet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 there is more than the server there tho? Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 and another one being prepared. and approx £100k worth of accompanying switches and routers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 good god dont leave em outside for long Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 That's delivery companies for you! Dropped them about 100m from the entrance in the carpark. There's over 250kg of weight there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpat Systems Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, james.wilson said: there is more than the server there tho? Its a 3U Cisco blade: Router/Firewall Server Switch But in order to run all that: WAN Link (bonded ADSL) Internals of cabinet BT Router top Backup router, should the one in the Cisco blade fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 wow Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Owl Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) That is impressive! A company I worked for used Indigo Vision recording on Dell's setup as NVR's for all high end sites. it's good, but has it's issues with with ONVIF cameras. Dahua will be fine, why is it marked so low? The only time you can get away with high end/priced systems is local authorities and large institutions. Dahua would happily run on your small / medium or even large site. Distributers like COP will give you advanced replacement too! It can't be all bad if they stocking thousands of £'s worth of gear and supprting a business focusing on one brand. Yes it's chinky (a lot of brands are!) but i'd class it top end of the spectrum. Edited May 12, 2016 by Night Owl Spell boy, spell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Dahua is the second biggest CCTV supplier in China, next to Hikvision. If you go to ISC West, you would know China is dominating the CCTV market. If you are still buying in UK, I would recommend you to try Hikvision, Dahua and Uniview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Love the bonded ADSL! Guessing it works just as well, and the only solution short of FTTD? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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