Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hi, apologies if this may of been duplicated before but I cannot find the answer I require.I have a client with a Visconic Powermaster installation and they require a flood detector..... Easy I thought as they are listed as an option, but buying one is a problem as they are not available in the uk for the powermaster. Having spoken to Visonic there are no planned dates they can give as to when it will be released.In the meantime I am thinking I can use the aux input on the door contact module and hard wire a flood sensor to that... Does anyone know of a suitable sensor with a N/O output contacts that would be suitable. (There is NO provision for power in the basement so looking for a passive device)Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james.wilson 741 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Can't think of a passive device that would. Quote securitywarehouse https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hi jameswilson thanks for your quick response…  Do you have any suggestions on how to overcome this problem and fit a flood detector back to the panel ? (wireless or wired). thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 thinking about it, why don't I cut off the 2 wire probe from a cheap ebay water sensor and then just connect that to the aux in N/O contacts ? thoughts ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 may have answered my own question -Â http://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/acatalog/water_flood_float.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james.wilson 741 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 thinking about it, why don't I cut off the 2 wire probe from a cheap ebay water sensor and then just connect that to the aux in N/O contacts ? thoughts ?That won't work Quote securitywarehouse https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 please explain ? will this work http://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/acatalog/water_flood_float.html? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
al-yeti 532 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Mct550? But you may need to change panels aswell depends Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 …….. thanks….. but this is not compatible with the powermaster range, only powermax. Confirmed by Visonic…..  They suggest using door contact auxiliary input…. so I am thinking connect this > http://www.ultrasecu…lood_float.html to the N/O contacts for the trigger...  thoughts please and appreciated ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
al-yeti 532 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It's cheap enough to try out I guess, personally I would rip the panel out at this stage But like I said cheap enough to giv. It a go, experiment with door contact , you have one already? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james.wilson 741 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 You could use a PowerMac one. Standalone reciever and wire it in to a zone input at the powermaster Quote securitywarehouse https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Panel only been installed 2 yrs I'm told. client has big system with the remote lcd keypads etc only available on the powermaster. Don't think its viable to tell them to spend money ripping panel out just for a flood detector addition as spent £3k putting it al in!!!! Can you send me a link to the Powermac One you are referring me to ? Can't locate! Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nova-Security 114 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) That float detector will need a certain amount of water before it sits up and triggers which could be 10 -20 cm deep  you need something thats detects water by resistance  http://www.jablotron.com/en/product-catalogue-1/alarms/wired-devices/detectors/environmental/ld-12.aspx  or posh one  http://www.fibaro.com/uk/the-fibaro-system/flood-sensor Edited February 13, 2015 by Nova-Security Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to post Share on other sites
james.wilson 741 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Powermax Detector http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1721 Â Standalone reciever http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2126 Â Then wire the reciever into a spare hard wired zone on the panel Quote securitywarehouse https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hi Nova, thanks for your advice. I've looked into this but these require power to which I don't have in this location. (see orig posting) Float moving up shaft to trigger event I think will be acceptable for this situation. Interested to see what a powermax one receiver is ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
datadiffusion 618 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I think he said there was no local power (seems odd that it coiuldn't be arranged for a basement) so the above looks like the best bet. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands  Link to post Share on other sites
Nova-Security 114 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 In the meantime I am thinking I can use the aux input on the door contact module and hard wire a flood sensor to that...  Soz, re read your post, your hardwiring back to a wireless contact, cant see why the float switch wouldn't work then as long as it gets enough water to tip it over and float. 1 Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to post Share on other sites
james.wilson 741 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Interested to see what a powermax one receiver is ? Its in the post above Quote securitywarehouse https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to post Share on other sites
Avago19 0 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hi Jameswilson, I see that your option would work too...... If my £15 float option fails then I'll try it. Thanks pro's.....appreciated.... and great forum... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
al-yeti 532 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Perhaps have some kind of dual option , lol confirmed flood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WDT 2 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Perhaps have some kind of dual option , lol confirmed flood  I like that. Confirmed flood, First alarm your be alright in shoes second you will need a wet suit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
al-yeti 532 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 We put Mr dd on callout still got a boat!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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