March 7, 201313 yr comment_308722 Hi all, As you might have noticed I don't pretend to know about stuff I don't properly know about, hence the lack of Fire and CCTV offerings. But that doesn't stop me playing about at home - I'm running a Synology server which also has Surveillance Station, and seems to work fine with an old internal network camera I've got. So I was thinking about having a camera at the far end of the garden, an external IP dome, to watch the new office and the approach to it. Just put the wires in now with the foundations for the new bit. I found a potential bargain on fleebay - not the usual no-name tat, in fact seemingly dumped on the clearance market G4S backed tat - but its NTSC... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Dome-IP-Camera-EN-7350-N-/221193868244 http://www.g4stechnology.com/uploads/G4S/Datasheets/G4S_IPCamera_NOV10.pdf I'm thinking, how/why can it be NTSC if its IP... OK, it must have an analogue to IP encoder which means you have to choose a standard at some point, I just don't remember seeing ANY reference to PAL or NTSC in Surv. St. Would it be the end of the world it it was NTSC?? Update: Found the full datasheet http://eu.amag.com/uploads/AmagIntl/Datasheets/AMAGINTL/AMAGINTL_H.264_EN7530_FEB12.pdf Am I right in thinking the NTSC bit really is of interest ONLY to someone using the optional analogue video out terminal and irrellevent to IP as I thought? Edited March 7, 201313 yr by datadiffusion So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 7, 201313 yr comment_308730 It might only be a problem if you want to focus it locally with a PAL mini monitor The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-308730 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 7, 201313 yr Author comment_308732 Thats what I thought - the only reason they make NTSC / PAL versions is because of that additional analogue output, right? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-308732 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 7, 201313 yr comment_308774 It will have an encoder and be taking an analogue feed from that camera. You will get interlace issues with it. Go for a progressive scan proper ip camera over an encoder based one securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-308774 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 7, 201313 yr Author comment_308810 TBH a 2nd camera is a 'nice to have' not a 'must have' for me; any budget recommendations? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-308810 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 7, 201313 yr comment_308830 I only rate axis and inq. Panasonic have some cheaper offering but im not a huge fan securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-308830 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 16, 201313 yr comment_309959 To clarify, ip is a protocol, as in a method for devices to talk. Ip cares not if its ntsc or pal, it still talks effectively at its level. So yes, it can matter if the device using ip to chat is speaking american or english... Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-309959 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 18, 201313 yr comment_310059 To clarify, ip is a protocol, as in a method for devices to talk. Ip cares not if its ntsc or pal, it still talks effectively at its level. So yes, it can matter if the device using ip to chat is speaking american or english... Are you suggesting that 'pure' IP cameras are still NTSC or PAL ? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-310059 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
March 18, 201313 yr comment_310069 Nope, i have no idea on that. Just that ip encapsulates data, any data, in order to deliver it to its destination, and so it could be any signal at all Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34183-ip-cameras-and-ntsc-pal-wtf/#findComment-310069 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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