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Hi, not sure if anyone can help at all but I was just wondering if anyone had the user guides for the Thorn System 7002 & 7008, unfortunately the copies we had have been binned by mistake

Any help greatly appreciated

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Ah! It seems these panels are so old now that no one has the manuals any more, oh well two to cross off of the list, thankfully one of our engineers had the Modern Alarms Series 74 & 80's manuals, took me months to get hold of those :)

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Just looked through my AFA / Thorn archive.

I don't have any thing on those systems either.

 

Mind you- if you do ever come across any old AFA burglar alarms (G type) relay burglar alarm panels withe round drum boxes- I got info on those.... not that, that will help you!

 

Will ask around some fellow ex Thorn engineers.

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Bagpuss, we are grateful that you would try to help but this topic was posted in 2011 I would think the poster would have either solved his problem or installed a new panel by now

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Just looked through my AFA / Thorn archive.

I don't have any thing on those systems either.

 

Mind you- if you do ever come across any old AFA burglar alarms (G type) relay burglar alarm panels withe round drum boxes- I got info on those.... not that, that will help you!

 

Will ask around some fellow ex Thorn engineers.

Hi Bagpuss

 

Thank you for looking, I forgotten all about this thread :D , by chance two weeks ago I was going through one of our long untouched cupboards in the office and came across the user guide for the System 7002 & 7008 as well as engineering guides (of sorts) for the System 208, System 416 & System 6001

 

However I was told by a colleage that chance of finding these panels out in the wild now is minimal to impossible (I believe the 208, 416 & 6001 were old bank/high security panels that were replaced a hell of a long time ago), unfortunately we don't have any on the G-Type, System 9010, System 9020, System 9001, System 9003, but again I believe these have all but gone these days?

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Bagpuss, we are grateful that you would try to help but this topic was posted in 2011 I would think the poster would have either solved his problem or installed a new panel by now

 

I'd have bet on that at Labrookes. However....!

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I'd have bet on that at Labrookes. However....!

:)

 

To be honest I had a list of panels we had out there so I was just after the books on the off chance, however no one has ever asked for one so it was a case of having one "just in case" more than anything else, I doubt we'll ever be asked for one not in 2014  :)

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Hi Bagpuss

 

Thank you for looking, I forgotten all about this thread :D , by chance two weeks ago I was going through one of our long untouched cupboards in the office and came across the user guide for the System 7002 & 7008 as well as engineering guides (of sorts) for the System 208, System 416 & System 6001

 

However I was told by a colleage that chance of finding these panels out in the wild now is minimal to impossible (I believe the 208, 416 & 6001 were old bank/high security panels that were replaced a hell of a long time ago), unfortunately we don't have any on the G-Type, System 9010, System 9020, System 9001, System 9003, but again I believe these have all but gone these days?

 

Apologies for the late reply (again). I have been in hospital.

I know of a couple of "G-Type" relay installations still going. Though with subtle modifications, with them having their circuit batteries removed and the end linked out to make a continuous closed loop.

A mains/battery PSU has been added.

What amuses me is that someone has actually gone to the trouble to modify these systems- when in actual fact it'd have been easier (proberly cheaper) to just rip it out and replace it.

 

However- I now work in the Film Industry as a visual effects engineer.

I am currently involved in a feature film set in the 60s, and the set requires an 'authentic' burglar alarm panel for the bank and vault.

If anyone has ripped out any old kit recently, and hasn't yet skipped it- if you want to get rid of it! Let me know!

 

 

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Ive got a tanbury datalock 2000, that doesnt appear to have a single ic in it! It was removed from one of the uks oldest aircraft hangers. Dont have the keypad but that seems to just had one switch per wire on a common...

I hate it when films get that sort of stuff wrong. Watched the 1970s episode of Utopia recently to see fire doors with 1990s style stickers, (ironically the later episode set in present day had fire doors with the old diamond shaped stickers!) and in one scene an led emergency light with green glow filling half the shot...

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However- I now work in the Film Industry as a visual effects engineer.

I am currently involved in a feature film set in the 60s, and the set requires an 'authentic' burglar alarm panel for the bank and vault.

If anyone has ripped out any old kit recently, and hasn't yet skipped it- if you want to get rid of it! Let me know!

Anyone else thinking "Arf" ?

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Anyone else thinking "Arf" ?

 

If I had 1p for everytime someone mentioned some porn film related joke - I'd have retired a long time ago. ;-)

Secondly - that side of the buisiness isn't regarded as the "Film Industry"- and if you ended up working on anything like that, you'd be kicked out of your respective union- and then never work again.

:sneaky:

Yep - the Film (and TV) industry is very old fashioned - and still operate on Union Rules introduced in the 1960s.

You can't touch anything with wiring - unless you are an electrician, anything that's a prop (movable by an actor) has to be done by an Equity Member and so forth.

To clarify, I work as a Visual Effects Engineer. Basically building electronic bits, panels, controllers, radio control, detonators- pretty much anything you can't get off the shelf.

 

I have worked on Dr Who, Starwars (new ones) - currently involved in new one, Harry Potter (all of them), Minder (new series), and a couple of the more recent "Bond" films.

 

I saw tons of old very old "AFA" panels when I worked for Thorn in the 90s- all working - and a couple protecting High Security Installations too. The only bug bear was the flag batteries that were dotted everywhere- and seemed to fail on a Sunday afternoon while I was on call.

I knew of a couple still in operation about 2 years back - though expect the've been ripped out now.

 

My question on the old alarm panels further up, was just to see if anyone had any old kit they were dumping and had ripped out as I will be starting work on some project set in the early 60s.

I May end up raiding the local army suplus stores for kit with bakelite knobs on and building something that looks the part.

 

:proud:

 

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If I had 1p for everytime someone mentioned some porn film related joke

Arf must have left "pornstar" off his CV, World beating alarm eng & before that trainee mechanic IIRC ?

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I did a site visit earlier this year to a well known porn studio, I have some pics somewhere of some well known sets, when I say well known I mean well known to those who are interested in that sort of thing, not me.

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