nv_london Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Dear all, I'm a new member and it's my first post so please go easy and thanks in advance for any help and advice. I bought a house with an DA systems Abacus 8R alarm already installed (no manual/instructions to be found anywhere). After playing around with the keypad I managed to programme and set the alarm (the internal siren beeps for 30 or so secs and the alarm then sets....all good). However, if activated (by a sensor for example), only the internal alarm sounds the external bell box/siren remains silent. I have absolutely no idea where to start in trying to resolve this problem. Could it be a fuse in the internal control box? Is it more likely to be with the actual external bell box? Do I somehow have to programme the external box via the keypad? Any help would be much apprciated. Thanks yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Just ti say it may be a suren fault, even disconnected due to faults on the system, so a 'bell test' is your 1st check to see if it is operational. If that works then a common mistake made is system has to be fully armed ti get external siren to activate on tripping a detector. If your tripping s detector before the exit bleep stops, you won't get external warnings. User manual may be available from here or google it Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 It'd either Faulty bell Disconnected bell Faulty bell cable Bad connection Blown fuse Faulty panel You will need to open it up or call in someone who can to find out securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The other thing it could be is that the detector you are using to trip it is programmed as entry/exit, if it is you will get 30 seconds of entry noise then a 30 seconds or so of internal sounder (much louder) before the external sounder goes, Im not accusing you of doing this just saying its what may of happened. The best way to test it is to either do a bell test dependent on the software version this should be as follows: Enter code and press no screen says "omit zone?" press no, or if its later software it will say "yes to continue no to quit" press yes the screen will the say "omit zone?" press no Screen then says "1 Prog 2 Test 3 Log 4 Day" press 2 Screen then says "1 Bell 2 sound 3 walktest" press bell and the bell should start ringing press 0 to stop and keep pressing 0 to return to normal day mode. Alternatively set it and trigger it on a detector thats definitely not on the entry exit route This panel has been obsolete for a few years now, good panels but should be serviced regularly by someone familiar with them they did suffer from firmware failures where they occasionally forgot user codes which nearly always happened after they where set so the user couldnt turn the thing off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nv_london Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi. Thanks all. I tried the bell test...no luck. Just a very faint 'clicking' from the box i.e. it seemed as though it was allconnected properly and the box did realise it needed to sound, but it just couldn't. Like i said, no 100db sound just an extremely faint 'clicking'. Any advice/thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oxo Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 New sounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The other thing it could be is that the detector you are using to trip it is programmed as entry/exit, if it is you will get 30 seconds of entry noise then a 30 seconds or so of internal sounder (much louder) before the external sounder goes I thought an Abacus would activate the external sounder after the first 30secs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Be. Prudent ti have an engineer check it over properly, he can advise you of changes that can be made ti better suit your needs Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I thought an Abacus would activate the external sounder after the first 30secs? Not on an entry zone it gives a louder noise to say hurry up and switch me off before I ring the bells, the time for this can be pre programmed by the engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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