I think a well designed system with the panel in a well protected area and the signalling parts of the system are also in confirm areas (ie no external aerials, mounted by windows etc) then g2 signalling on a g2 system 'may' be 'enough' and acceptable. However IMO too many people are speccing G2 signalling without meeting this and are suffering total loss's on a break in. Sometimes you have no choice but to mount the panel in a vulnerable area mind and if you have no alternative then g4 comms is the only sensible thing to do.... usually

Grade 2 signalling is no better than a digital communicator. The reporting time (i.e. the duration from a network trouble such as a line cut occuring to the moment it is presented to an operator at the ARC) can be upto 25 hours. Remember a single path communications failure is an un-confirmed event and is strictly speaking a non-policed event.

Agree with where youre coming from jim, but what about a single path failure & say pir activation (on a duel G2 obviously)?

domestics, if they got a cat & we agree to keep it in kitchen so fit shocks...

they get PI hall, landing anyway (and anywhere else think the begger might get out to/hide in on setting)

prefer to confine pets, but dont like to rely 100% on shocks

Trouble is, cats kept in kitchen would put me right off the choc biscuits - specialt the melted daek chocolate on a pmv!

Arfur

Edited December 3, 201015 yr by arfur mo

Agree with where youre coming from jim, but what about a single path failure & say pir activation (on a duel G2 obviously)?

That would allow for confirm. Assuming the other patch was available, and was caperble or reporting the alarms.

That would allow for confirm. Assuming the other patch was available, and was caperble or reporting the alarms.

yep, was just pointing out...

Grade 2 signalling is no better than a digital communicator.

....that i disagree

....that i disagree

Seems a very one sided post alround tbh.

Seems a very one sided post alround tbh.

hopefully jim will get trade, then we can let rip

kiddin jim, do come over, would value your input.

Seems a very one sided post alround tbh.

In some respects it is no better. Ie catastrophic failure, both paths at the same time.

Could happen on break-in, panel removed from wall and done so before expiry of entry timers. Gsm jammer and cutters etc etc.

Needs a lot of thought and planning to use g2 dual path. Sadly some don't and use it cos its 'dual path but cheaper'

Seems a very one sided post alround tbh.

wouldnt say one sided, more focusing on one point

In some respects it is no better. Ie catastrophic failure, both paths at the same time.

Could happen on break-in, panel removed from wall and done so before expiry of entry timers. Gsm jammer and cutters etc etc.

Needs a lot of thought and planning to use g2 dual path. Sadly some don't and use it cos its 'dual path but cheaper'

yep, but as above, aint all about polling.

Imho g2 dual path should only be used where you would normally use a digi, but the phone line is very vulnerable. Everything else should be g3 comms, except vulnerable panels etc and higher that average risk. G2 is quite weak imho