Guest anguscanplay Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 the point you miss here is ..... all these regulators in any industry prohibite an apliccant from mentioning the fact they are applying on their printed material for a reason ...... greater minds than you have decided that the practise is wrong and the new law now makes it illegal too no possible argument available Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Arf i agree (omg) lol But I have seen this myself, for example SIA NSI gold firm says We are NSI Gold approved and operate an ISO 9001 qa scheme' AN Other Silver firm says 'We are NSI approved and operate an ISO 9001 qa scheme' difference is, we are inspected to prove that we do.... how can it be any other way. I know your not defending the cowboys but could i also say on my quotes as a plumber 'working towards corgi' etc. Client thinks and assume sthat they are exactly the same and they are saving the costs of all the inspections etc. So the customer buys a system in the belief its gonna be excatly the same as the one we would provide (i dont mean silver here im meaning the cowboys) when 9 times out of 10 it wont be. We as a company allow 2 days for 1 engineer to install an avergae domestic so say 6-8 zones wired. Yet some claim to offer the same install std, same ger for less than a 3rd we do. They do this by installing 3 or 4 a day. Problem is they install more than us, perhaps we should listen to the consumer and abandon quality and just provide it cheap and run? Im not serious but you see my point. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 IF you had ever gone through an inspection you`d know you know nothing compared to these guys ( and I include myself in that statement) we install to the regs and these guys know the book inside out - if you`ve cut a corner they will find it - even if you didnt realise you`d cut it ........... i wonder how do you sustain that view? when i spoke to them at ifsec i asked how far they looked into systems, for instance do they open j/b's, remove contacts look inside detectors and panels etc, spot visits no prior warnings. answer was an emphatic no - i forget the lame reasons given, just remembered the incredulous horror and dismay i felt. anyway enough of this, my views are un-dented as i'm just as sure yours are the same, as it's all been done to death before lets just stop here, lothers can make up their own minds. lets face it, another 10 years and i won't care either way - if i still have a pulse that is and why make new enimies, had enough of that in the past. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 i wonder how do you sustain that view? when i spoke to them at ifsec i asked how far they looked into systems, for instance do they open j/b's, remove contacts look inside detectors and panels etc, spot visits no prior warnings.answer was an emphatic no - i forget the lame reasons given, just remembered the incredulous horror and dismay i felt. regs alan like i said "you`ve never been through an inspection ......." yes they do open joint boxes, get the ladders off to check the fixings on sheet clad buildings and ring customers to check they did get the annual visit ( and on the date the db says and that we did fail to contact the customer on the dates we claim we tried ) amongst many things but there not going to tell you that before you sign up are they - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 like i said "you`ve never been through an inspection ......." yes they do open joint boxes, get the ladders off to check the fixings on sheet clad buildings and ring customers to check they did get the annual visit ( and on the date the db says and that we did fail to contact the customer on the dates we claim we tried ) amongst many thingsbut there not going to tell you that before you sign up are they - LOL peace! regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma01 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 peace!regs alan "If you carry your childhood with you, you never become old. Why rush to end life when happiness is in the blissfulness of childhood innocence.""We all die, the goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will." 07475071344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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