RichardT Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I'm trying to fix or replace components of a faulty 4-zone "Tate Fire and Security" fire panel. The panel now always registers "fire" on one of the zones. Internally, the main PCB is marked "1990 Securitech" and "T-S4/90". There are separate plug in cards for each of the 4 zones. It appears that it is one of the plug-in cards which is at fault as if I swap them round, it is always the same one that fails. Does anyone knows of a supplier of replacement "zone" cards? It appears that "Tate Fire and Security" have gone out of business (or perhaps they are now part of Tate Colson?) Ideally I would like to track down a circuit schematic to try to diagnose/fix the problem myself, though if anyone knows what is typically the source of such a failure, please reply. The zone card itself is a fairly small circuit with only 2 ICs: MC14011B (Quad 2-input NAND logic) and LM339 (Quad Voltage Comparator). Regards, Richard Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromaniac Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) I have just come across the exact same make and model, Did you ever find a manufacturer? I need the display PCB, if anyone has one. Alternatively I guess it means I may have a zone card for you, although I realise your post was a while back...... Bill Edited March 5, 2009 by Pyromaniac I once had a boss who when the District surveyor said there are not enough Decibels in the Boiler room, told me to get some out of stores. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-227528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectrician Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I used to deal with Tate a good few years ago and had not realised they had gone squit. They did not manufacture. They re-branded many different manufacturers systems. What panel is it? It may be a conventional type which uses generic bases which can be used with oodles of other panels. Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-227540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 securitech were made in redditch. Later became c&k securitech. Made fire panels until the mid 90's id say in redditch uk. Then got swallowed up c&k and production stopped, then bought by honeywell. Unless someone has an old one then id suggest its bin time. But to be fair 4 zone basic conventional fire panels are less than securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-227546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatonTE1 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) As said they us rebadged panels - currently they are using the Premier SX panels. http://www.screwfix.com/prods/94522/Securi...s&source=aw Throw a pic of it up and you might strike lucky if soeone has a spare card about,although personally I'd pull it as being obsolete and fit a new one (take your pick,as James says there's a shedload out there under the Edited March 5, 2009 by MatonTE1 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-227558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Contact Securefast in Southport Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-227599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulstyle Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Bin that rubbish and stick in a decent panel like a Gent Xenex. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-227664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyffffffffffffy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Hi, did you ever sort this? I need a zone card! Or wiring diagram, let me know please thanks Quote I'm trying to fix or replace components of a faulty 4-zone "Tate Fire and Security" fire panel. The panel now always registers "fire" on one of the zones. Internally, the main PCB is marked "1990 Securitech" and "T-S4/90". There are separate plug in cards for each of the 4 zones. It appears that it is one of the plug-in cards which is at fault as if I swap them round, it is always the same one that fails. Does anyone knows of a supplier of replacement "zone" cards? It appears that "Tate Fire and Security" have gone out of business (or perhaps they are now part of Tate Colson?) Ideally I would like to track down a circuit schematic to try to diagnose/fix the problem myself, though if anyone knows what is typically the source of such a failure, please reply. The zone card itself is a fairly small circuit with only 2 ICs: MC14011B (Quad 2-input NAND logic) and LM339 (Quad Voltage Comparator). Regards, Richard D Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-484774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Hi: The post you replied to is some 10 years old now, so doubt you'll get a response. Panel schematics were never issued to the trade by manufacturers only Installer and user manuals, if your trying to repair the panel for re-use you could be leaving yourself open to prosecution if it fails in the event of a fire. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-484776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Need to scrap it and put a cheap replacement in Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22125-tate-4-zone-fire-panel-fault/#findComment-484781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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