August 15, 200619 yr comment_112959 Ah, a Telecom....was it the 680? Bellman will know. Fire, PA and ambulance keys under a plastic flap on the keypad. Had some fun with those If you don't know......ask. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-112959 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 15, 200619 yr comment_113026 Right, here goes. One of oldest panels I worked on when I started with Moderns in 1986 was a Brocks Analyzer. It had EOL batteries in the form of flag cells with 6v lantern batts to power the panel. They sometimes had a reel to reel tape player attached, a 999 unit which had to be rewound by hand to reset. Until someone told me about a link between two terminals which would rewind it under it's own power. If the EOLs went down and you'd run out of flag cells, you could put a 6v on the end to get you out of trouble. For about 10 minutes when it would FA as you were driving away. The oldest had to be the S type 1. A keyswitch and toggle switch on a block with the panel containing batts mounted higher up the wall. Lacking a buzzer, this beauty would ring both internal and external bells on setting and unsetting. I'll bet the neighbours were impressed. I remember a 74 panel connected to a boxed turntable that had to be reset by pressing a button on the deck and cueing up the record. The start of my DJing career. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113026 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 15, 200619 yr comment_113032 Right, here goes. One of oldest panels I worked on when I started with Moderns in 1986 was a Brocks Analyzer. It had EOL batteries in the form of flag cells with 6v lantern batts to power the panel. They sometimes had a reel to reel tape player attached, a 999 unit which had to be rewound by hand to reset. Until someone told me about a link between two terminals which would rewind it under it's own power. If the EOLs went down and you'd run out of flag cells, you could put a 6v on the end to get you out of trouble. For about 10 minutes when it would FA as you were driving away. The oldest had to be the S type 1. A keyswitch and toggle switch on a block with the panel containing batts mounted higher up the wall. Lacking a buzzer, this beauty would ring both internal and external bells on setting and unsetting. I'll bet the neighbours were impressed. I remember a 74 panel connected to a boxed turntable that had to be reset by pressing a button on the deck and cueing up the record. The start of my DJing career. Took this out recently, and it stil worked Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113032 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 15, 200619 yr comment_113041 Right, here goes. The oldest had to be the S type 1. A keyswitch and toggle switch on a block with the panel containing batts mounted higher up the wall. Lacking a buzzer, this beauty would ring both internal and external bells on setting and unsetting. I'll bet the neighbours were impressed. on rely-a-bell and later Chubbs CA3 they called it a 'lockblock and coffin' design, same idea keyswitch, toggle switch and a reset button. house versions had an 'AGRO' buzzer, if you touched it while adjusting it would kick you across the room. the countless number of trainee's, and a few supervisors i 'got' that way - progress? where's all the fun gone if i had an intermittent on a laced wired circuit, i'd feed a spare agro buzzer via a 12 volt hpi battery, the induction would either weld the 'rot' or blow it apart. if at night or a basement and you were lucky you would see the spark, smoke or arcing from the fault. just some 'old skills' shown to me from my original service trainer - who needs these new fangled calibrated meters . regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113041 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 15, 200619 yr comment_113052 Wots laced wiring Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113052 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 16, 200619 yr comment_113101 Wots laced wiring OMG, and you are an 'old hand' alarm engineer? Time to go back to school I think. Edited August 16, 200619 yr by magpye Someone told me I was ignorant and apathetic, I don't know what that means, nor do I care. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113101 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 16, 200619 yr comment_113116 Laced wiring is using tube and battens across doors, windows, weak walls, Etc. Yer I'am forming a new firm called "retro alarms" it all tube & batten, cc wire & foil......... Anybody know where I can get hold of mark II escort van some wooden ladders & a flared leg boiler suit? For the complete look? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113116 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 16, 200619 yr comment_113127 Laced wiring is using tube and battens across doors, windows, weak walls, Etc. Yer I'am forming a new firm called "retro alarms" it all tube & batten, cc wire & foil......... i Anybody know where I can get hold of mark II escort van some wooden ladders & a flared leg boiler suit? For the complete look? your not going back far enough, tube and batten is the modern version, it's tube and saddle frames using ebony coated coppr wire and insulated staples you really want for retro don't forget the kerry spring contacts and knock out bars either. as to clothes Chubbs issued its service enginners with blue plastic 'barbers' jackets, it got a bit saucy if you went into a gay persons flat i can tell you - backs to the wall and all that regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113127 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 16, 200619 yr comment_113129 hi all, talking knockout rods i just remembered a customer when i was on Chubbs, she was a baraster, and only worked 6 months a year and travelled six months. she had every window on the house fitted with knock out rods so she could walk arround inside and be protected. the alarm was always armed, and about every 2 weeks she'd open a window and dislodge a bar calling the police. to stop here getting nasty letters from the CPO i said to remove the phone from the cradle within 30 seconds, so at least the 999 would be stopped and we did a dress rehearsal. next call for a reset, i asked did she take the phone off the hook? 'Yes' so the Police were not called 'er! yes they were'. baffled i check this old black phone (the one's with a chrome dial) no probs, so got her to demonstrate, she sets off the alarm rushes to the cupboard and lifts the receiver as planned - then plants here fingers on the wrest buttons banghead just glad i never needed her to defend me regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113129 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 17, 200619 yr comment_113401 Olds, mate. That's a corker. I like what looks like the innards out of an old AFA bell behind the hurdy -gurdy. That's effectively the panel and PSU, isn't it? You could be known as The Curator. Of the museum, that is. Retro alarms. LOL I did a search on Google and read something about early signalling systems and how they predated and later gave rise to city-wide phone systems in the US. The first electric burglar alarm was used in 1858, apparently. Bit before my time. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/11824-oldest-panel/page/4/#findComment-113401 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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