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Al-Yeti "..What you mean "irrefutable proof then."? Thanks for that, the dictionary definition is basically 'Absolute, cannot be challenged'

Mr Happy "..."two way" define what you & your "electronic's boffin" expects under the term,"" Thanks for the reply. First and foremost, it might be advantageous to remove the 'you' from your reply since the 'you' refers to myself. For my own part I did not define 'two way' in the original post (although it was used as a heading)..the lecturer did indeed refer to 'two way' and goes further to expect absolutely nothing 'under the term' since he maintains that 'two way' does not exist with regard to the control panel and transmitting device.

I could never lower myself to speak to anyone on this forum like that.

Technology moves on I suppose, but I doubt if any self respecting company would just go ahead and change a perfectly working id system. Don't know much about the biscuits..if they are numbered or whatever, can't they be sorted according to the panels or systems they are supposed to work with ?

"....all this stuff here in the forums is just chit chat and opinions?..." So no irrefutable proof then. "....You do realise professional advice is paid for..." But you just said it's chit chat and opinions. "...OP why are you being evasive?..." I can't for the life of me think of one reason for being evasive, nor can I point to any post where I am being deliberately evasive, Why would I do so, I have stated the views of a lecturer in electronics and look to yourself and fellow professionals for concrete evidence to the contrary, I have no intention of starting a war here, if no one can offer irrefutable proof then we'll drop the subject... but check out some of the evasive and sometimes personal replies Norman, viz; "....i can only assume whoever is asking the question over and over again is somewhere on the autistic spectrum..."

I don't want to prove anything, I have asked for professional advice from the site experts who have thousands of posts to their credit. I am certainly not going to buy a dongle... I'll wait until I receive a civil answer..

If I thought I was being 'smutty' I would never have posted the question.

So, can anyone offer 'irrefutable proof' ?

Fair comment, leave out my use of the term 'standard' then, if that makes a difference to the original post. Here it is again:- "....I need some irrefutable proof from the experts on this one since a local electronics boffin appears to doubt the integrity of the term 'two way' when related to wireless detection. The claim, basically, is that the panel does not 'talk to' detectors, but rather it interrogates it's own received signals from detectors, but does not actually interrogate the detectors themselves only the received signals..." He doubts the integrity of the term 'two way' and I am just seeking the opinion of professionals in the field of security.

"....so how is that 2 way?.." I didn't say it was. On the contrary, these are not my remarks they are the comments of the electronics lecturer outlined in the original post, where he maintains that there is not two way occuring in a standard wireless system, anything I insert thereafter is not my opinion but rather a portion of his original comment..I am merely seeking the advice of this site's experts. The question is in the opening post.

Good answers, all appreciated... would you mind if I inserted a part of my opening post it might help to resolve the question? "....but rather it interrogates it's own received signals from detectors, but does not actually interrogate the detectors themselves only the received signals.."

Good answers, all appreciated... would you mind if I inserted a part of my opening post ? "....but rather it interrogates it's own received signals from detectors, but does not actually interrogate the detectors themselves only the received signals.."

Unfortunately, good answers worth thinking about, but nothing categoric.

I need some irrefutable proof from the experts on this one since a local electronics boffin appears to doubt the integrity of the term 'two way' when related to wireless detection. The claim, basically, is that the panel does not 'talk to' detectors, but rather it interrogates it's own received signals from detectors, but does not actually interrogate the detectors themselves only the received signals.

Yeah ! bit to patronising methinks Petrolhead.

I'm not regarded as the 'main runner' in this field, but I would guess (working on lower end equipment) that you have a faulty device, disconnect to only the bare minimum and test again.

You are in my books.

Bang on target again Al-yeti (correct as usual)...and I was only kidding (in another post) about you plotting Goncall's downfall

Well Snap Dufbeer ! I currently have at least a dozen books on The EU. You know what I think ? I couldn't give a Monkeys what they say and the quicker we leave that 'jobs for the boys' crew the better. Then we can start cleaning up our own career politicians and their jolly boys outing 'opening of parliament' and a few thousand other problems besetting this island...But you still haven't made it absolutely plain and clear...can I use my camcorder with audio where and whenver ? Time for some straight forward answers I think.

"....Saying all of that, maybe the ICO will introduce an easier and cheaper option.." A goverment department handing out 'CHEAPER options'.... Never known that to happen in my entire life.

EU law overrides UK law (what's left of it}.

Thanks Norman,

I should imagine the changes would be on their website duffbeer. I'm still saving my sheckels for the 'licence to view' though. No smoke without fire as they say, so for my own part I believe there is a lot in what the site experts say or suggest..can't afford to be without my camcorder.

Datafussion, Is this a cradled eeprom on this panel or does he need to get the soldering iron out ?

"....ive had that exact happen, got know where with it..." I know exactly what you mean, although there have been several times in the past when I almost succumbed to ' taking the law..' as it were.