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57 minutes ago, JOHNNYH said:
what cable is recommended ?
I would normally wire intruder alarm data in belden, daisy chained, screened to cabinet (normally 4mm machine screw & nut, floating at last device
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37 minutes ago, JOHNNYH said:
what was the old texecom psu issues ?
spikes killed them, I've done PE24's between Edinburgh & London this yeat & don't go back
I also do Euro's & Orisec & don't have ay real issues with anything.
Al doesn't do Texecom using more exclusive equipment...
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PE 168, now much smaller system than it was for 20 years as a P168, each building has at least 1 psu, cables run under the public roads
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9 hours ago, JOHNNYH said:
If you know your stuff ? you will know the average person does not own Keysight oscillosope
Every possible measurement needed to commission and diagnose an intruder alarm can be done with multimeter
If you have property large enough to need 5 expanders & lots of expensive test equipment I would assume some with your qualifications & talent could earn more more doing your own job & pay a proper alarm co. to provide a working complaint system rather faff around wasting time & money doing it poorly.
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1 minute ago, al-yeti said:
I assume this isn't one the old texecom PSU problems ?
As I understand it the PSU comes from Elmdene, when they failed they just stopped producing voltage.
1 hour ago, JOHNNYH said:It is the control panel at set times causing this loss of power, 12V dipping for 50ms at 10 Seconds in to a minute and at 40 seconds in to a minuet
Compare it the ones o your the PSU2000XP's
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3 hours ago, JOHNNYH said:
Starting to question how good this kit is ???
I've got lots of it in the field, the oldest premiers are over 20 odd years,
3 hours ago, JOHNNYH said:the max current being drawn total is 680ma, there is a 1 amp fuse protecting the supply ! there is enough head room
But the 2.5A of power is at 12v ?
Chances are 5 extensions speakers will be almost all the current of the system !
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41 minutes ago, JOHNNYH said:
This is nothing to do with poor install or too much on the system, its a 50ms dip in power on the 10 second of time and the 40 second of time every minuet, i think its by design as part of the battery test, though this is a massive design flaw if it by design!!
Roughly speaking the controls will power-
Its self & some detection devices
1 external sounder
1 keypad
1 extension speaker
1 communicator
Maybe a 2nd keypad or an expander with mostly contacts on it
It will probably need a 9ah battery to have the correct amount of standbay time
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8 hours ago, JOHNNYH said:
I design electronics and circuit boards in altium pro PCB design software and fully understand voltdrop and earth loops etc.
That's nice... did you read the installation book where it states the size of the psu & the current drawn by each texecom device ?
You have the main board, 5 expanders, 5 speakers & a keypad
I also assume you have an external bell(s) & powered detection
All powered by the panel....
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normally closed
put 1 wire off the circuit on the terminal with the red wire & the other on ther terminal with the black wire
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neither the controls or the button are something we'd see in the UK
one circuit wire into the left terminal,
alarm value resistor across both the device terminals,
a tamper value resistor the right terminal,
2nd circuit wire soldiered on other side of the tamper resistor
this would be double end of line resistors, you product or market place may do this differently...
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7 minutes ago, mrala said:
If I enter the engineer code, can I then extend the cable without fear of the alarms being activated?
The bell should ring as soon as the power is removed regardless of whether its on day or engineering mode
If the alarm is old, diy or fitted by a muppet, it might or it might not ??
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In case anyone cares-
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a hardware picture found on facebokk...
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Invert the 2 negative output?
Or
Use relays from the neg outputs?
Use a relay board on the Stu outputs if it's a 48?
Add an expander with 8 outputs?
Whatever works for you ?
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It a euro 46 with 76 zones as far as I'm the 46 did more than 46 zones ? It might have done 76 but I would have to look at the book...
There is a plastic hybrid panel with built in radio coming... For the last couple of years
Does the 280 do the app ?
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who's gonna be the guinea pig & have all the issues ?
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News to me, the legal info is missing from each of the websites, google finds the info regardless
This was only interesting bit of info for me-
QuoteBritannia Monitoring Services in Goole, East Yorkshire, will be one of the first ARCs to adopt our network. The customer-focused ARC monitors around 4,000 homes and business premises around the country.
4000 x £150 is £600k which is not a lot of money for running an arc ??
(yes cctv pays more, however something like a smartcom will pay less)
1 hour ago, norman said:Nope, some of H's chums over in six finger land Orion Elastimers apparently.
I guess at - https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11798207
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Modern panels work best with 1 eol device per zone
However-
depends on the model of contacts
how they are wired
ect...
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15 minutes ago, norman said:
Probably be surprised what a nerd would pay for it on fleabay.
I be £100.00 or offers...
However it was probably cira £50 to buy back In the day, so inflation wise a bad investment
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I'd assume late 80's ?
Probably cost a few quid at the time ??
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1 hour ago, GUYT1 said:
becoming quite valuable I see...
the current offer from the Domino's is £12 for a large pizza... your "3 pizza keypad "is probably the same £ including vat as it was sold for 20 - 30 years ago when it was brand new & had a manufacturers warranty.
Factor in inflation & even though it was probably nicked form work its been a less than Stella investment...
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EWD most are a negative return with negative triggers
With + & - correctly terminated, at the panel end, touch the return wire to the bell trigger wire, it should sound....
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28 minutes ago, Ed-B said:
probably the Ring system as which magazine rates this one very highly in the UK.
Which ? , you must be reading Razzle as only w@nkers would rate a Ring alarm....
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Just now, al-yeti said:
Ion is not bad for diy if you already know the scanny menus generally
You quote the orisec? And texe? Both more difficult and the euro with zem complicated for diy ? What you saying blood?
All commercial controls are much of a muchness,
I did an ION 10 recently, I find them much harder than a euro, orisec or texecom
There is no DIY controls, everything is based on assumed knowledge
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19 minutes ago, Alarmocos said:
(I’m a spark and don’t do alarm installs, but happy to tackle my own).
I work for lots of electrical contractors, I'd assume you'd have you own contacts
Depending on what you've got & how's it fitted-
CP-20, PE64-W or Euro 46 + Radio Zem
I can probably change the controls in 1-2 hour, 15 mins a device & 30 mins for a sounder
Nobody is producing consumer equipment, its all quirky...
Texecom Elite 88 Expander Errors
in Control Panels (Public)
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25+ year old cables, 20year old expanders, cable length, water in man holes, length of time its measured ?
its not a problem site,, so never tried to fixe it.