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#1 buzzman1982

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 09:46 PM

Hi my Visonic wireless system had stared beeping in the early hours of the morning telling me that its battery is low and display code S01. I am a little dissapointed that its done this before its 3rd birthday do they normally do this so early?,
so wondering if i can replace it with a Pyronix Deltabell or another wired bell. I have phoned up companys for replacement batteries etc but they want to charge me about £125 and i think this is too steep. My neighbour who is a spark can fit the bell.

Thanks for any advise

Rich

#2 jnealon

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:57 AM

Deltabell will work with the visonic but you will need an expander card to connect it to the panel

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:02 AM

Thanks for your reply, does this have to be a Visonic expander card or will any kind do?

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:53 AM

If it's a Powermax + you do not need an expander, there are already connections on board at the rear of the panel.

If it's a Powermax Complete you need an expander module from Visonic.

Be careful with the loads of the bell, make sure its a Deltabell E and put it in SCB mode.

You can buy a battery for your existing wireless bell for less than £20.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 05:58 PM

View Postbuzzman1982, on 12 December 2011 - 09:46 PM, said:

I have phoned up companys for replacement batteries etc but they want to charge me about £125 and i think this is too steep.

I would suggest you get the system serviced and have all the devices batteries replaced.

£125 to swap the bellbox battery or do a full service?

The Visionic Bellbox batteries last a good while, if there not used.
If you've had a number of activations, that will be why the battery is low.

#6 buzzman1982

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 09:53 PM

Thanks so much guys for your replies, the £125.00 was a full service, which for an average home isn't too much, but my place is really small so i think that makes it a lot, and to be honest i hate the outside box as it looks like a dummy, theres no winking and blinking at night, its not very loud on the two times its been activated, and this whole business of getting up a ladder to do batteries seems like too much bother to me!! If i was doing it again i think id have wireless again but not the visonic, as clever it is, but it seems a bit hard to programme.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:38 PM

Most wireless device batteries will only have about a 3 year life and that includes the bell boxes.
If you have told your insurance company that you have an alarm, they will expect you to have your alarm serviced or they might not pay out on a claim.
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#8 buzzman1982

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:29 PM

hello, i told them i have an alarm but its not maintained. I think the first year when it had been installed i dont think it made much difference with the price

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:35 PM

Its not the price, its the small print in the policy that you need to look at.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:36 PM

you did have an alarm when it was working, but now.....
Never wrestle with a pig, you both get covered in sh1t and the pig enjoys it!

#11 buzzman1982

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:42 PM

cheers ive just had a look as i renewed it recently and there is no mention of alarm in paperwork, might give them a call i know the first year i told them it was an approved system, the next year i told them there was an alarm but not maintained, and i think the next year i made no comment about the fact there is an alarm as it avoids complications

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:46 PM

By the time you've bought the bits, cable and installed/programmed them...
...you could have the system fully serviced by a company, and be sure it's working, tomorrow.
The other device batteries will need swapping soon if the bells failed.
Approved yearly service can give piece of mind, the discount on the insurance normally covers the cost.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:52 PM

i can see your point but i dont want to do it, im only living here for another 6 months then renting it out, and even when i get to that point i may snip it so it wont cause any trouble.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 12:16 AM

If you rent the property make sure the rental agreement doesnt make you responsable for the functionality and maintenance of it.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:35 AM

View Postsixwheeledbeast, on 13 December 2011 - 11:46 PM, said:

By the time you've bought the bits, cable and installed/programmed them...
...you could have the system fully serviced by a company, and be sure it's working, tomorrow.
The other device batteries will need swapping soon if the bells failed.
Approved yearly service can give piece of mind, the discount on the insurance normally covers the cost.

I dont think so.

#16 buzzman1982

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 10:28 AM

Personally i think it adds more problems if you say to insurance about any alarm fitted becouse if your out in the garden doing the lawn and you get robbed, then they could turn round and say alarm should be set, or you might not want to set it for whatever reason, but if you have told them you have alarm they might demand you have it set when you go to bed, or if you popped into a neighbour. It only knocks off about 2 -5 % anyway




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