Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Anyone out there know how to wire up a bell box sab to a omega 5 panel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Aux + -, HO and ST over on the left would be may guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Aux + -, HO and ST over on the left would be may guess. Probably right, the sab i'm using is an MAS sabmaster module and ive tried wiring it up but it just blows a fuse in the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Have to ask: Why would you want to connect an alarm that old back up ? Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Specialist said: Have to ask: Why would you want to connect an alarm that old back up ? Well because it looks pretty cool in my eyes and ive always wanted an early electronic display sort of panel in my collection of ye olde burglar alarms. Edited May 31, 2019 by Jack b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Ok, now that makes more sense if your an alarm collector. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I would test with a meter first but I assume:-  12v+ = +ve 12v- = trig HO = -ve ST = tamp return B = beacon? strobe  Failing that the 999 D'COM terminals are likely negative sinking panic and intruder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I would test with a meter first but I assume:-  12v+ = +ve 12v- = trig HO = -ve ST = tamp return B = beacon? strobe  Failing that the 999 D'COM terminals are likely negative sinking panic and intruder. The problem is the HO is not negative its positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 So it's for an old SCB then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: So it's for an old SCB then Ill probably just run the tamper switch directly to the panel then put the hold off where it needs to go, then put the trig on the B terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Also the tamper return will be pos on that panel Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, james.wilson said: Also the tamper return will be pos on that panel Im guessing there was an especially made sab module that would go with the panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 SCB where designed that way. Tamper return will be +ve if the HO is +ve, you can see the tamper link is still fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Jack b said: Anyone out there know how to wire up a bell box sab to a omega 5 panel? You try the phone number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, al-yeti said: You try the phone number? Hmmmmmm no but i might just give it a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: SCB where designed that way. Tamper return will be +ve if the HO is +ve, you can see the tamper link is still fitted I thought SCBs were the ones that had the voltage going directly to the bell box and when the alarm sets off, the hold off is cut sounding the bell using its own battery and SABs were the ones that had the trigger voltage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Jack b said: I thought SCBs were the ones that had the voltage going directly to the bell box and when the alarm sets off, the hold off is cut sounding the bell using its own battery and SABs were the ones that had the trigger voltage? You mean scb mode uses internal battery to activate sounder and hold off is just charging  And sab mode draws power from panel hold off when bell activated   Both have a separate trigger  Or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, al-yeti said: You mean scb mode uses internal battery to activate sounder and hold off is just charging  And sab mode draws power from panel hold off when bell activated   Both have a separate trigger  Or something like that Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Self Contained Bell, uses it's own lead acid battery to sound the siren when triggered from panel. Self Activating Bell, uses the panel voltage to sound the siren when trigger is low, or "hold off" voltage is removed which "self activates" the bell from it's NiCd. Many modern SAB's have a SCB style mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack b Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: Self Contained Bell, uses it's own lead acid battery to sound the siren when triggered from panel. Self Activating Bell, uses the panel voltage to sound the siren when trigger is low, or "hold off" voltage is removed which "self activates" the bell from it's NiCd. Many modern SAB's have a SCB style mode. You'd find SCBs in chubbs, AFAs, brocks and all that and you'd find SABs in thorns, Abels, modern alarms, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 No you found all that from previous companies. It's a matter of time Imo till we will be do anything but what code you on about. You best not charge me for this etc etc Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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