WDT Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I know people have discussed fire and stuff on here, A friend of mine who was a fireman on scene that day of the clandon park fire thought i might like to look at the report as we have talked about how they work out the cause of a fire, I also thought some of you guys may like some light bed time reading and there is photos at the end, http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/people-and-community/surrey-fire-and-rescue/surrey-fire-and-rescue-services-fire-investigation-report-clandon-park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Loose N. That's how an otherwise very good electrician friend of mine cause £1m+ worth of damage to a new-build nightclub that hadn't even opened. He forgot to tighten the N nut on the main busbar and then as the occupier moved in and ramped up the load... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 Thats called a bad day in the office, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Yup Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 14 hours ago, WDT said: I know people have discussed fire and stuff on here Amendment 2 calls for metal boards to contain fire due to loose connections on domestic installs.... does'nt appear to have worked very well on this one Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Nope not a jot of difference, although arguably a lot more internal plastics to burn on a 90s 3 phase and if in a tiny cupboard... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 Did you guys like the report I found it interesting, Didn't find any pics of the fire alarm so not sure where they got the info from, unless that was from who ever checked the fire panel when it was first activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I guess that as it was a manual activation, the fire alarm was of secondary interest - however, there clearly wasn't anything in the CU cupboard... Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 You engineer read the report like in the film short circuit It said that the roof space sensor was the first activation, Maybe i am very sad reading it that well, I am over your way tommorow in bristol, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Yeah but I mean it says the call came direct from 999 on a mobile after a power loss, so presume the alarm itself went off far too late? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 IIRC the fire at Clandon was discovered by staff investigating why the socket they where using for their computer had switched off ? Opened cupboard door to check consumer unit to find a cupboard full of flames ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 ******** you've got me reading this again... INCIDENT NARRATIVE 1 Action Before Arrival of the Fire and Rescue Service 1.1 Prior to the time of call to the fire service, a member of the Surrey Infantry Museum staff was working in the museum basement office when his computer lost power. He went to the fuse board to investigate the loss of power and on opening the cupboard discovered that there is a fire inside. 1.2 He has contacted National Trust Staff, who responded to the basement area, isolated the power at the main electrical intake in the plant room and then at 16:08 hours dialled 999 on her mobile phone and requested the fire service. 1.3 The house is open to the public and the National Trust staff and volunteers then evacuated the building. the report only mentions "alarm" twice- As part of the investigation the building’s fire alarm panel information was accessed and the timing and location of activated smoke detectors show that prior to the arrival of the fire service smoke had travelled to the roof space. Rapid Fire Spread It is believed that the rapid fire spread observed at this incident occurred when the fire quickly reached the lift shaft allowing the smoke and fire to rapidly spread to each floor of the building and into the roof space. It is believed the fire was able to spread in to the room above the distribution board cupboard due to a lack of fire compartmentation above the board. An electrical contractor's report in 2010 noted a lack of fire stop/barrier to the ceiling recesses of the distribution board cupboard. This report did not recommend any remedial work regarding this issue Additional evidence of this comes from the fire alarm panel information. In addition to the lift shaft this building had horizontal ceiling voids in between each floor and many other hidden voids that accommodated unseen, rapid fire spread Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, MrHappy said: IIRC the fire at Clandon was discovered by staff investigating why the socket they where using for their computer had switched off ? Opened cupboard door to check consumer unit to find a cupboard full of flames ? As part of the investigation the building’s fire alarm panel information was accessed and the timing and location of activated smoke detectors show that prior to the arrival of the fire service smoke had travelled to the roof space. Ok good point it does not say the first activated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, MrHappy said: ******** you've got me reading this again... Ha ha I am only sent here to test every staff dialed fire service, funny it don't say they activated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I think it's been discussed elsewhere in more detail, however you'd expect more mention of "alarm" in major fire ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDT Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 hours ago, MrHappy said: I think it's been discussed elsewhere in more detail, I am missing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmodern Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Joined this party a little late. Am not an electrician but surprised the accident was blamed on a connection that was too tight! (page 7, 6.4) Thought F/tight was an electrical requirement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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