Guest Dave the alarm man Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Got TS690 delivered from gardiners today Its a TS690IDMPLUS according to the box It got a sticker on the box which say's compatible with iD & iD+ It's also got a sticker inside with iD+ Licensed product on it Which brings me to the question what the hell is id+ when its at home?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Fancy a biscuit? Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave the alarm man Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Just looked on google found attached on casltecare's site A bigger biscuit big deal it's not even chocolate Also heard anything about ade new controls found follwing on norbain Product name: Captiv8-256 Control Panel Type of equipment: Control panel Key benefits: Expandable from 32 to 256 zones In-built access control functionality Variable partitioning for maximum flexibility DEOL and iD Plus capable as standard Up to 500 user codes Meets EN 50131 parts 1 and 6 up to security grade 2 EN50130 part 4 EMC standards id_plus.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSTER Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 ID Plus are new biscuits which have better filtering built in. They are compatable with most Castle panels, the Menvier panels with the sticker on the box, and no Gardtec panels Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave the alarm man Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 golly i've had a brain wave & looked on ade site Engineer's manual freely available to any wally with the web guess that will greatly limit the number of interested installers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Teague Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 ID Plus are new biscuits which have better filtering built in. They are compatable with most Castle panels, the Menvier panels with the sticker on the box, and no Gardtec panels Excuse my ignorance, whats better filtering? Only asking as I've got some issues on a G/T ID system we took over recently that keeps F/A ing, and checks out ok on Technicals troubleshooting guide. Anyone want to PM me with ID info / known prob's or even kick a topic into the Trade Forums for discussion? Chris Teague (Sales & Operations Manager) Sightguard Intruder Division Covering the Isle of Wight: - Design, Installation, Maintenance & Takeover of Intruder Alarms, Fire Alarms & Equipment, CCTV, Access Control, Nursecall. Keyholding Service, Guarding & Cash in Transit. SSAIB & NICEIC Registered Tel 01983 884000 / 884440 Any comments / opinions posted could be the voices in my head speaking, but they are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 ID Plus are new biscuits which have better filtering built in. They are compatable with most Castle panels, the Menvier panels with the sticker on the box, and no Gardtec panels Excuse my ignorance, whats better filtering? Only asking as I've got some issues on a G/T ID system we took over recently that keeps F/A ing, and checks out ok on Technicals troubleshooting guide. Anyone want to PM me with ID info / known prob's or even kick a topic into the Trade Forums for discussion? 27028[/snapback] now we come to issue using screened twisted pair cable... try to install CAT5 screened PATCH CABLE instead of UK type ALARM CABLE. It is similar to UK type alarm cable ( multistranded ) except it is twisted pair. Remember to connect screening to panel casing. If it doesn't yet work out, disable the internal transformer and use external one ( SAFETY ISOLATED (I can sell you one if not available in UK (this SHOULD be ok with your regulations ))) in tamper proof casing which is earthed. Use only under 1m UNSCREENED cable from transformer to panel. Do not earth panel casing ( IF it is ok with UK regulations (should be because it is _extralow_ voltage )) but connect all screening to panel casing (or if casing is plastic to the earthing pin of the panel). I bet it works. If it doesn't, I'll fly to UK and offer you a cup of coffee (or tea (or beer)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Nooooooooo, Install the cable recommended by the manufacturer then if you have any problems they have no recourse or quick get out clauses, ie no we cant help you Mr ABC alarms you have installed bloody cat 5 cable, ha ha ha ha Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ALSEC Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 DO WE HAVE TO GO OVER THIS AGAIN??????????? WE CAN'T INSTALL CAT5 ON ALARM SYSTEMS - EVEN IF WE WANTED TO WHICH WE DON'T!!!!!!!!!! banghead banghead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsd Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Excuse my ignorance, whats better filtering? Only asking as I've got some issues on a G/T ID system we took over recently that keeps F/A ing, and checks out ok on Technicals troubleshooting guide. The only thing I have found out is to keep biscuits away from each other, this caused us a few problems on a Karizma once. A lot of our id systems are wired in 8core, and give us no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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