charlie6 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Technology moves on I suppose, but I doubt if any self respecting company would just go ahead and change a perfectly working id system. Don't know much about the biscuits..if they are numbered or whatever, can't they be sorted according to the panels or systems they are supposed to work with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Owl Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I see you use a backlit sign on buildings Yes on our wired systems, you like? Technology moves on I suppose, but I doubt if any self respecting company would just go ahead and change a perfectly working id system. Don't know much about the biscuits..if they are numbered or whatever, can't they be sorted according to the panels or systems they are supposed to work with ? The issue is, for say number 10 dies, and all you have is 19. (low numbers go quick) now you have a big gap in zones! Not to mention i've been to many sites that arent well 'documented' and it costs you time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yes on our wired systems Do you get planning permission? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark auto Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Is this ALL ID biscuits are no longer being made? ID+ included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSTER Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Yes Quote Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpertalarms Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Resurrecting an old thread here. We still look after quite a bit of iD. Still got several karizma plus panels going strong, we have heaps of spare biscuits and usually replace any dead panels with texecom and an iD expander. Yet to rewire any sites to EOL though, has anyone had to rewire any iD sites to EOL yet? Edited November 23, 2017 by xpertalarms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsturner Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 10 hours ago, xpertalarms said: Resurrecting an old thread here. We still look after quite a bit of iD. Still got several karizma plus panels going strong, we have heaps of spare biscuits and usually replace any dead panels with texecom and an iD expander. Yet to rewire any sites to EOL though, has anyone had to rewire any iD sites to EOL yet? Nope, went Texe route on them, works really well. Finding Disco Biscuits is the hard bit ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jms Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Dammit, I shouldn't have thrown mine away, been ripping out 5 to 6 old Id systems a month for well over 2 years. Would've been loaded by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Jms said: Would've been loaded by now. Not sure you would, I think faced with fix an old system for lots of dosh, versus new system for lots of dosh, even the most tightest amongst us will go for the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jms Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Why did ID systems stop being installed? Not fitted one for 12-14 years, But never had any problems installing the old gardtec systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9651 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Grading, if using mask/fault reporting you'd need to hang about 3 busicuts out of each detector 21 hours ago, xpertalarms said: Resurrecting an old thread here. We still look after quite a bit of iD. Still got several karizma plus panels going strong, we have heaps of spare biscuits and usually replace any dead panels with texecom and an iD expander. Yet to rewire any sites to EOL though, has anyone had to rewire any iD sites to EOL yet? We tend to go texe route and give the customer he choice . If it's an upgrade for say comms, rewire/configure as much h/w as possible, then add wireless if required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 we go the hkc id route. But it means hardware upgrade. But due to the age of the system usually best anyway Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 33 minutes ago, james.wilson said: we go the hkc id route. But it means hardware upgrade. But due to the age of the system usually best anyway I had trouble with one once , new cable tried different panel , but kept getting coms error on hkc ID , weird , it worked with wireless instead lol Although others worked with ID fine , I think newer stuff isn't as rigid as biscuits, and even using the common leg method on older galaxy boards , forget the model but mostly old ADT systems put well together , limited for upgrading though , not enough cores on each leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 id was designed for car use, short runs large cable etc. I've run hkc at over 200m leg length with 2 legs in the same 6 core due to 10 device limit Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, james.wilson said: id was designed for car use, short runs large cable etc. I've run hkc at over 200m leg length with 2 legs in the same 6 core due to 10 device limit Yeah but your hardcore alarm monkey who swings from alarm cable and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 It's long finished Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 It's long finished Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MrHappy said: It's long finished I disagree Mr H, We have quite a few systems that we have migrated from the original Menvier etc, That are now on Texecom ID. I loved it to be honest, I really don't understand why the concept hasn't continued. Edited August 4, 2019 by Rulland Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 It could be pretty unreliable I am glad it's not still around TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Rulland said: I loved it to be honest, I really don't understand why the concept hasn't continued. For the same reasons the Map Six never caught on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 There was a replacement called oip never adopted by anyone but gjd iirc Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Biscuits should have a min space between them (500mm?) You would have needed 3 biscuits in device for alarm, confirm & mask ? Edited August 4, 2019 by MrHappy Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 If biscuits where still around for Grade 3 they would just have 5 legs instead of 3. I think BUS detectors where a better idea, issue is your tied to one manufacturer then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, MrHappy said: Biscuits should have a min space between them (500mm?) You would have needed 3 biscuits in device for alarm, confirm & mask ? The biscuits are basically a chip, not an rfid device, distance isn't a problem. Obviously these days the requirements are different, alarm and confirmation isn't a problem, masking is. Edited August 4, 2019 by Rulland Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 They were magnetic sensitive so had to be away from that. Also weren't supposed to extend the white leg so shutters, sealed stuff etc 'could' be an issue Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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