Took maintenace on today for a FA. It has a shutter over a servery that drops when the FA sounds. issue is The shutter is conected to the Sounder Curcuit and drops when the panel is tested on a class change i.e. the fire relay dosent change. is there a deviation for this?

Yes-go through side door to collect your dinner.

I thought so. I thought you couldnt connect things to the sounder circuit?

I've seen shed loads of premises where access gear etc has been 'toggled' via relay on the sounder circuit-easiest option for fire release when required,so is it wrong?.

so is it wrong?.

silance = reset

True-but surely one doesn't silence just for the shear hell of it-you silence/reset after confirming that a valid alarm state no longer requires action.

At which point anything attached to the sounder circuit may be reset also.

"sorry mi lord but mrs Jones burned to death because a polish person who worked here didn't know what the procedure was"..........it does happen unfortunately!.

One will never cover all eventualities either by legislation or trying to cover all possibilities.

True-but surely one doesn't silence just for the shear hell of it-you silence/reset after confirming that a valid alarm state no longer requires action.

At which point anything attached to the sounder circuit may be reset also.

"sorry mi lord but mrs Jones burned to death because a polish person who worked here didn't know what the procedure was"..........it does happen unfortunately!.

One will never cover all eventualities either by legislation or trying to cover all possibilities.

Ain't that what happened to Mr Morris ?

I don't know the particular ins and outs of that case-but it's a sure fire fact what happened will happen again.

a bodged fire alarm that did activate,

http://www.info4fire.com/news-content/full/fire-alarm-contractor-sentenced-under-fire-safety-order

http://www.info4fire.com/news-content/full/fatal-fire-care-home-manager-fined-for-fire-safety-breach

11k for bodger £515 for silencer

its very important to document issues with system

I thought so. I thought you couldnt connect things to the sounder circuit?

hmm! now that begs a monitoring issue with same job. i class changed two buildings but have only monitoring on one fire panel. Now if the other panel goes into fire i will get zero, so i was toying with using a relay wired to the sounder instead of the fire relay