lawandorder Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 well I could say an expert wouldnt be looking at a property with a 9651 but that might appear insulting and not what I'm saying!! lol.Point I'm making is that kids at school learn enough basics to know a "loop". A pro knows to keep all wiring "within the protected area" for example whereas DIY, I've seen cables run up the fence to the garage on CC wiring & many other basic mistakes (but this is a public arena - so limited to explain). Using a fully supervised loop is not as easy to overcome. not by a long shot. AND, the parts are provided so why not fit them. Easier to cable, easier, quicker to connect, less wiring involved, so why not? (on a 9651 you can get 4 PIR's on a single 8core with FSL, youve only got 8 zones max!) I could do that with conventional wiring with most panels! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 If you can get your head round the resistors (not that hard really, just a bit fiddly getting them in the contacts) go for them over seperate alarm and tamper loops. (on a 9651 you can get 4 PIR's on a single 8core with FSL) I make that 6 PIR's if you wanna be rough with it! Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 If you can get your head round the resistors (not that hard really, just a bit fiddly getting them in the contacts) go for them over seperate alarm and tamper loops.I make that 6 PIR's if you wanna be rough with it! now, now. lets stick with the instructions. Trying to make it easy for the fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virdi Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 ok ok - If you can explain FSL to me - I might give it a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 ok ok - If you can explain FSL to me - I might give it a shot from your pir picture: Keep blue/red/black as is. remove green & yellow wires (redundant). Put one leg of both 2k2 & 4K7 resistors in where green was. Put other leg of 4k7 in with white wire, other leg of 2k2 where yellow was. In panel use red/black as power as before, use white & blue across cct as existing. In programming cmd 21, 1, tick. job jobbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virdi Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Could you just explain that last bit pelase ' use white & blue across cct as existing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 One in the middle leg of the three zone terms and the other in the outer-as explained in previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virdi Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 Another quesion On the pic of that PIR above - Could somebody just explain what each terminal (letter) means please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Another quesionOn the pic of that PIR above - Could somebody just explain what each terminal (letter) means please? +ve -ve Normally closed Common Spare Tamper Tamper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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