well I could say an expert wouldnt be looking at a property with a 9651 but that might appear insulting and not what I'm saying!! lol.

Point I'm making is that kids at school learn enough basics to know a "loop".

A pro knows to keep all wiring "within the protected area" for example whereas DIY, I've seen cables run up the fence to the garage on CC wiring & many other basic mistakes (but this is a public arena - so limited to explain).

Using a fully supervised loop is not as easy to overcome. not by a long shot. AND, the parts are provided so why not fit them. Easier to cable, easier, quicker to connect, less wiring involved, so why not?

(on a 9651 you can get 4 PIR's on a single 8core with FSL, youve only got 8 zones max!)

I could do that with conventional wiring with most panels! lol

If you can get your head round the resistors (not that hard really, just a bit fiddly getting them in the contacts) go for them over seperate alarm and tamper loops.

(on a 9651 you can get 4 PIR's on a single 8core with FSL)

I make that 6 PIR's if you wanna be rough with it!

If you can get your head round the resistors (not that hard really, just a bit fiddly getting them in the contacts) go for them over seperate alarm and tamper loops.

I make that 6 PIR's if you wanna be rough with it!

now, now. lets stick with the instructions. Trying to make it easy for the fella!

ok ok - If you can explain FSL to me - I might give it a shot

ok ok - If you can explain FSL to me - I might give it a shot

from your pir picture:

Keep blue/red/black as is.

remove green & yellow wires (redundant).

Put one leg of both 2k2 & 4K7 resistors in where green was.

Put other leg of 4k7 in with white wire, other leg of 2k2 where yellow was.

In panel use red/black as power as before, use white & blue across cct as existing.

In programming cmd 21, 1, tick.

job jobbed.

Could you just explain that last bit pelase ' use white & blue across cct as existing'

One in the middle leg of the three zone terms and the other in the outer-as explained in previous post.

Another quesion

On the pic of that PIR above - Could somebody just explain what each terminal (letter) means please?

Another quesion

On the pic of that PIR above - Could somebody just explain what each terminal (letter) means please?

+ve

-ve

Normally closed

Common

Spare

Tamper

Tamper