Gambo Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Does anyone on this forum have an opinion one way or the other for open or closed protocol systems? I know I do. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 depends both have benefits. One problem with open protocol is that some clients get anyone to work on a system, dont matter if its right etc as long as its cheap. Closed removes that. We use open as a rule but some high risk sites are closed. James securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-208694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigE Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 personally i prefer closed protocol - notifier, ziton etc i find that open protocol can often be commisioned by people who are not engineers, therefore much of the process is guessed at, leaving a raft of problems. also, when using open you can be shafted by both panel manufacture and the protocol manufacture both blaming the other for problems. With a closed protocol, they will help to correct the problem as they have no-one else to blame! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy phillips Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 personally i prefer closed protocol - notifier, ziton etci find that open protocol can often be commisioned by people who are not engineers, therefore much of the process is guessed at, leaving a raft of problems. also, when using open you can be shafted by both panel manufacture and the protocol manufacture both blaming the other for problems. With a closed protocol, they will help to correct the problem as they have no-one else to blame! WHS its all a myth anyway the only truly open protocol system is a conventional panel Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F C E Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Hey All, i have heard that with the new EN54 in 2010 closed protocoll systems are being made non compliant is this correct?? All comments in this post are my own views and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 hello stranger! not heard it but that means nothin' TBH. where did you here it adam manf or on the net? C. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F C E Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 from a fire officer down here, have done net searches but cant find anything about it. All comments in this post are my own views and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Cant see it myself. How could you legislate for that. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Cant see it myself. How could you legislate for that. Taking it further, why just fire, why not Access, Intruder etc. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensplace Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Do closed protocols (and panel source code) get fully released to and 'inspected' by any official bodies in order to pass grading requirements etc, or is it just up to the manufacturer to self certify? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24565-open-or-closedmanaged-protocol/#findComment-209345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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