February 16, 200719 yr comment_151962 As you may have seen some of my other posts, I am looking at getting a PC DVR with possibly 25fps. I presume with 4 cameras this will give 7 fps per camera? How usable would this be? Generally speaking, on such a system would a 320 TVL camera really be noticably different from a 400, 420, 480 or even 500 TVL? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 16, 200719 yr comment_151966 Generally speaking the more TVL in theory the better the picture quality. Having said that you can get cheap makes that quote high TVL and produce total rubbish. You want to get the best quality camera's you can afford ... that doesn't necessarily mean more TVL but quality cameras. Personally I wouldn't go below 420TVL. Look for recomendations from guys on the Forum regarding specific camera makes & models. Stu. As you may have seen some of my other posts, I am looking at getting a PC DVR with possibly 25fps. I presume with 4 cameras this will give 7 fps per camera? How usable would this be? Generally speaking, on such a system would a 320 TVL camera really be noticably different from a 400, 420, 480 or even 500 TVL? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-151966 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 16, 200719 yr Author comment_151974 i dont kno w the grandtec that well, but assume it will be limited to 288 vertical res. I too only use high res (480tvl colour 570 mono).My opinion in that anything over 10fps per input is wasted but i think you will find you have a 25fps card, hat can do 25 with 1inpt but probably ony 2-4 fps with all 4 (due to multiplexing issues). Also the higher the framerate the more storage you need. I tened to use about 1-2 fps with no motion and say 5 fps with motion, as 5 shots a second IMO is more than enough. Some internal systems may run a bit higher (i never set above 12 fps) for slight of hand etc, or even reg capture Likely I will go for Geovision or Avermedia card, are these probably going to have same restriction of 288 vertical resolution? Does that mean it is pointless going for anything over 380 TVL then? (A good qauality 380TVL camera) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-151974 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 16, 200719 yr comment_151975 its not quite as simple as that, and the geovision can do 640x480 i beleive securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-151975 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 16, 200719 yr comment_151980 i dont kno w the grandtec that well, but assume it will be limited to 288 vertical res. I too only use high res (480tvl colour 570 mono).My opinion in that anything over 10fps per input is wasted ... That advice is against general police guidance. What is the available frames per second per channel of the DVR that you choose to use? Paul. System Q Ltd. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-151980 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 16, 200719 yr comment_152035 I use dm why what is police guidance then securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-152035 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 16, 200719 yr comment_152167 Just as a quick word of caution, when discussing resolution figures, make sure you are comparing like for like. In most cases (and in general terms), the figures quoted for cameras relate to horizontal resolution, with only a relatively small variance between different model cameras in relation to vertical resolution. In terms of a recorder (DVR), both the horizontal and vertical resolutions can vary depending on the actual settings. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-152167 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 17, 200719 yr comment_152234 I use dm why what is police guidance then 25fps per channel. System Q Ltd. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-152234 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 17, 200719 yr comment_152236 25fps per channel. Are you sure, I don't know to any time lapse that is set to record in real time so why the requirement for DVR's to do it.? I to would of thought that better quality recording at a lower frame rate would be the preference. ........................................................ Dave Partridge (Romec Service Engineer) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-152236 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 17, 200719 yr comment_152238 Are you sure, I don't know to any time lapse that is set to record in real time so why the requirement for DVR's to do it.?I to would of thought that better quality recording at a lower frame rate would be the preference. I System Q Ltd. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15809-fps-and-tvl-discussion/#findComment-152238 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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