Rob Kirk

Who uses a pts button inside the protected area? Unless you are trying to design around the guidelines, i agree its a loophole though. The correct wording should be pts button outside of the protected premesis.

Only the key fob and the wireless speaker/panic alarm button. But they are not truly two way tbh in terms of rf security, just two way in the fact that they need to be to perform the function they are doing. Visonic need to do a refresh, i like the price and the style of systems but not he lack of security which is why we are fitting an alarm in the first place.

From what i can make out the methods of complete setting for a confirmed system are only to be from a protective switch, shunt lock, pts button or door contact. but then nsi say this: NOTE 1 This prohibits the use of a timed exit procedure whereby, following initiation of the setting procedure, the IAS sets after a given time has elapsed. This is because of the possibility of a false alarm if the time is accidentally exceeded. Part setting: Clause 6.3 of the BS covers completion of the full setting procedure (to fully set the IAS). Therefore there is a certain amount of flexibility in terms of part setting the IAS. However, methods used to part set IAS should minimize false alarms. Always check with the local police force to see if they accept confirmed intruder alarms when the IAS is part set. ​So its kind of contradictory, but looks as though it shouldn't be a confirmed from a part set unless checked?

Have had one stop working completely, another would ping endless faults so ended up hardwiring to save some dosh and for piece of mind. They just seem very glitchy to be honest, dont like them at all. Its the downside of visonic plus most of the gear is not 2 way so not the most secure when trying to sell i think the detector line needs updating. Will try hkc soon see what the fuss is about, might bench test one for a while, they do look good though.

Have fitted around 20 visonic express and completes now found them ok but have had many issues with the wireless contact and now if i can always hardwire the door contact to zone 29. Anyway I'm sure its been covered before but wondered what peoples thoughts were on the best value for money wireless/hybrid systems.

The worst is if they nick your keys, find your car's gps and set it to home. I think fobs are ok though as generally people are so used to using a car fob and if it makes the user set the alarm more often or makes a sale to an otherwise code hating person then its better than having no alarm. If you think about it a car fob is a lot more risk involved as the car can be driven away immediately never to be seen again. A house on the other hand cannot be hidden and does not have a beep to say here i am unless there is knowledge of where the house is. Deleting a would be stolen fob from a visonic panel is something i need to learn how to do...will learn it tomorrow.

I thought a lot of those scennie panels were older than 16 years