Rob Kirk

Me dont like very much but then no one really likes change. Cant see where the latest topics are though although i haven't really looked hard enough. - desktop safari

Yeah around 210 inc vat for a 2 x pir, 1 x contact, siren, 2 x keyfobs and speech dialer panel. Each detector there after is around 30. I think hkc are a lot dearer but let me know if there is a kit they do around the same price..

do they have a kit for the same price as powermax complete kit/enforcer pstn 2 kit? with dialer or text sender?

When i started fitting them coming from powermax completes i thought they were horrible to program but its just what you get used to. I hate the fact its not a proper speech dialer like the powermax but just a text sender.... Also it costs the customer 50p every 18 days to send a test signal to the pyronix centre... thats not great explaining to a customer. Anyway i love the look of them compared to the powermax but my other gripe is there is no flex holder..... they expect you to use a very tiny cable tie to hold the flex..(not even supplied). visonic provide a lockdown plug type flex clamp that works... also you have to buy the 5 pound backplate to have any chance of doing any wiring beyond a flex cable behind the panel even the flex cable and bt cable is tight.. also the panel doesn't talk recorded "arming away" like the powermax complete but it does look a lot nicer along with the key fobs look better and the bell looks better imo. i wish there was a panel with the best of powermax but two way radio and the looks and range of the enforcer (yes i know power master but thats a different price bracket). I can't decide what is the better panel atm - obviously enforcer for security and range but for features to the customer and install quality its the powermax for me still..