sixwheeledbeast

Hang on, is this a Premier 24 or a Premier Elite 24. Elite's have two areas, non-elite this won't be possible.

Introduction Having used Optex detectors for years, I thought I'd review the two latest versions of there Quad PIR against each other. From the manufacturer... SAVER RXC-ST Design, construction and packaging Firstly the packaging the SAVER coming in a plain box and the Core series in a blue printed box, this is larger to a accommodate a ceiling bracket. I am not keen on the packaging for the SAVER, well I say packaging I actually mean the fact it has SAVER printed in bold on the box. Stupid name for a detector; in my opinion. The two sensors have a similar construction, manufactured from a sturdy white plastic they have that classic Optex style and feel using the same lens as the RX40. They do not feature a separate LED window unlike the RX40. They have a relatively small case and would be fairly discreet mounted in the corner of a room. Both sensors have a small cross head screw located on the bottom of the sensor. This has to be completely removed before the lid can be levered open. This is annoying as the screw likely to be dropped and roll under something or lost. Inside the sensors look identical, with loads of room and plenty of easy to use knockouts and cable entries. It also has a large channel up the rear of the back plate to accommodate cabling behind the sensor, if mounted flat. Optex always provide a small piece of sponge with there detectors, this should be used to seal the cable entry hole. Operation and setup As I mentioned already there is plenty of room inside which makes installation a breeze. The screw terminals are good quality and provide secure termination of stranded alarm cable. There are even two spare terminals which may come in handy depending on the installation, something the RX40 lacked. The detectors do not have built in resistors which is a shame. Most detectors have this now and it could put people off installing them. The instructions provided in both are very clear and explain not only product specific information but general tips of good installation practices and siting. Again both sensors provide the same sensitivity adjustment High, Medium and Low located to the left of the PCB with a three pin jumper configuration, this comes set to High which in clean environments shouldn't be an issue. They perform very well in all three sensitivity settings with a noticeable difference between High and Low. Low however, is still very capable of detecting an intruder. On detecting movement the lenses light up with a red square, this is more noticeable than a LED prism used on other sensors; especially in a brightly lit room. There is a jumper provided for disabling this if required. Conclusion The detectors are very good and perform well with no faults or false alarms. I can't see any obvious differences between them apart from the front lid design and bracket provided. Likes *Plenty of room for termination *Same lens as previous models Dislikes *Lid screw easy to lose. *No EOL jumpers *SAVER name

Links into Elan pretty easy if you understand it. But IMO as an alarm system it's a bit pants and not really designed for the UK market.

Thanks for reminding me, I need to dig out my card

I am also thinking the best way would be to keep it separate. How about an IP encoder/decoder if it's really awkward to put your own cable in.

Yep the Veritas doesn't have deep discharge protection like the Premiers and Elite's Replace on deep discharge.

Much better, I can hear you now OOI what are you recording and mixing your stuff with?

Yep, try this before defaulting.

@ade Sounds good, hope to here some of the other songs on the setlist too. Listening to Livin' on a Player you don't quite cut through the mix, how about lighting them tubes up a bit more

Now that you have >5 posts they can contact you via PM.

I would always recommend putting a contact on the entry door.

This is a cheap one-way system with all the functions you require. Anything cheaper probably isn't worth fitting IMO.

Need to post up:- Panel Firmware Version Ricochet Expander Version List of devices fitted to the system including type and which mode.

Throw a Powermax in?

The front door contact is Entry and the PIR is Home Delay (Access). This is what's suppose to happen. Open the front door first.

Are there any signalling products that have no message authentication? MITM attack is possible but unlikely IMO. Signalling devices are sold on how simples they are for monkeys to fit, I doubt the average installer would be able to setup VLAN's or separate subnets. Wouldn't it also depend which path is first priority?

I am not taking anything anyway from your comments in the other thread. I was at a new build yesterday, where non of electrics had PE links to the patresses. Safe to assume the 150 odd houses are the same? Huge issue if your not planning on taking a socket apart?

Two live boxes could have been too much current and blown something. Most panels need additional PSU's or SCB mode for multiple sounders.

Series the tampers, parallel the others. Deltabell will have wiring diagrams. Will your system support two live boxes, most won't and require additional power supplies or SCB mode.

Assuming requirements are met, that is.

Been "red spotting again" Yes, I know the pictures pants but it was the other side of a dual carriageway. Chester Road (A556) Rostherne Cheshire http://goo.gl/maps/gYEmL

No failures on any Techwin stuff here.

Not fitted that model but have fitted 600TVL Varifocal Techwin bullets before. I like them.

Wilderspool Causeway/Stafford Road/Greenbank Street Wilderspool WA4 6RP http://goo.gl/maps/7bqRi Signs can be seen from Morrisons Car Park.