Difference between Entrance and Exit Faults

[Eugene's DIY Den]

I have an SW-1070 panel. My external doors are set to have entry/exit delays on full alarm, i.e they're on an entry/exit zone. An SMS message told me there was an exit fault when I wasn't at home. I listened to the series of events and then tried setting the alarm but when I opened my back door, the alarm didn't start beeping to indicate I needed to enter the code. However the internal sounder didn't operate when entry time was exceeded. So I listened to the alarm log again and it said there was an entrance fault I think, but strangely the internal sounder nor the external sounder operated. Maybe I had put the code in before that happened (not sure of the delay between end of entry delay being reached without code entry and sounder operating, will have to look where to find it in the manual). The next time I tested the alarm after arming it, it detected me opening the external door and started a countdown. I let it alarm and the internal sounder operated followed by the external sounder some seconds later. So that possibly indicates an intermittently-working contact. I notice too that when I open an internal door, when the alarm is armed, without opening an external door, the internal sounder operates, but it seems to take about 10 seconds for the external sounder to operate, so that's another delay I have to find in the settings. Anyway to cut a long story short, when I don't enter a code on entry, this appears to be called an entry fault on the zone, rather than an alarm as happens when e.g. a window or internal door is opened. So what is an exit fault? Does this mean when I armed the alarm and closed my external door, the contact didn't close on the door? The timestamp of the alarm seems to coincide with the time I left the house. 
Just checked and split-entry time is 0, changed from the default of 30 seconds. All other delays haven't changed from the default values, so not sure why there's a delay (or where it's set in the engineer menu)  between the internal and external sounder operating when a non-entry exit zone sensor goes OC.

Edited Sunday at 18:37 by Eugene's DIY Den

[Eugene's DIY Den]

Ok, so I established there is a sticky contact on the external door, presumably this is waht caused the exit delay. Does an exit delay not operate any sounders?

[al-yeti]

1 hour ago, Eugene's DIY Den said:

Ok, so I established there is a sticky contact on the external door, presumably this is waht caused the exit delay. Does an exit delay not operate any sounders?

Yes sounds about right , it didn't arm when you left and your not recieving SMS that system armed ? 

 

Exit delay can't remember lol

 

 

Out of curiosity your using the app aswell right ?

[james.wilson]

Yes looks like a failed contact. If open it will countdown then report an exit fault

[Eugene's DIY Den]

17 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Yes sounds about right , it didn't arm when you left and your not recieving SMS that system armed ? 

 

Exit delay can't remember lol

 

 

Out of curiosity your using the app aswell right ?

Sorry, that was a typo. I meant does an exit fault not operate any sounders?

[Eugene's DIY Den]

19 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Yes sounds about right , it didn't arm when you left and your not recieving SMS that system armed ? 

I only get unset messages when I unset after an alarm occurs. I don't have the panel set to message when the system arms. I just got a message that there was an exit fault and a second message to say there was an alarm, showing the zone.

Still wondering why there's a delay before the external sounder operates. I/'ll double check tomorrow to see whether I was imaging things. Bell delay is definitely zero.

[Eugene's DIY Den]

40 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Yes sounds about right , it didn't arm when you left and your not recieving SMS that system armed ? 

 

Exit delay can't remember lol

 

 

Out of curiosity your using the app aswell right ?

No, I only have a GSM module installed.

Edited Sunday at 22:34 by Eugene's DIY Den

[al-yeti]

11 hours ago, Eugene's DIY Den said:

Sorry, that was a typo. I meant does an exit fault not operate any sounders?

Usually internal sounder, but you can have that off

10 hours ago, Eugene's DIY Den said:

No, I only have a GSM module installed.

Amount of messages you get cheaper WiFi connection no?

Means you have no set unset fault messages right?

[Eugene's DIY Den]

7 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Usually internal sounder, but you can have that off

Amount of messages you get cheaper WiFi connection no?

Means you have no set unset fault messages right?

Well I only have it set to generate messages if there's an alarm or a power fault and daylight saving time changes. Also it messages me after there's an alarm and I unset the alarm (I think even after the first time it's armed again and then unset after the alarm occurred). So under normal circumstances I don't get SMS messages. If I remotely arm/disarm it using an SMS, I also get messages, but I only do that if there's a false alarm when I'm not at home.

Edited Monday at 09:23 by Eugene's DIY Den

[al-yeti]

54 minutes ago, Eugene's DIY Den said:

Well I only have it set to generate messages if there's an alarm or a power fault and daylight saving time changes. Also it messages me after there's an alarm and I unset the alarm (I think even after the first time it's armed again and then unset after the alarm occurred). So under normal circumstances I don't get SMS messages. If I remotely arm/disarm it using an SMS, I also get messages, but I only do that if there's a false alarm when I'm not at home.

I think then in your case you need the sounder on at exit fault , provided you can hear it when closing the door 

 

I heard things like people coming home and the exit tone still going because the exit contact didn't open let alone close lol and they never bothered to wait for the system to arm , some texecom systems have a very low volume on keypad does a funny sound on set , although galaxy speaker does that double tone high pitched to tell you it's set , 

 

Modern insulated windows doors etc makes it some times difficult to hear