So is that a way I could identify if the alarm was full vs part set ? Ie for part set a number of zones are omitted ...

No. They do not support programmable outputs you get what you get. Which doesn't include any part set. It's just a basic domestic panel not designed for this type of interfacing.

Really it would be best swapped for a Premier 24.

 

The only messy workaround I can suggest would require to use some external logic and possibly engineers access.

You would have to remove the strobe wire and trigger it with the bell trigger. Then switch on the option for Strobe on Full Set (it s on as default).

You can now use the Armed plus the Strobe outputs into your own logic to tell if the system has been full or part armed.

if [Armed && Strobe Pulse] == Full

else if [Armed] == Part

I doubt it's worth the messing TBH.

Thanks for your help - I’ll give this a go!

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The only messy workaround I can suggest would require to use some external logic 

Please could you expand on what you mean here ? I can locate the STB power terminals but is that what you mean?

It's been a while... I was pretty clear with my instructions and the logic table in the post, how you utilise it will depend on what your connecting it to.

It's probably simpler to just put a more capable panel in.

5 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

It's been a while... I was pretty clear with my instructions and the logic table in the post, how you utilise it will depend on what your connecting it to.

It's probably simpler to just put a more capable panel in.

 

Apologies, I don’t know what happened with the quote, I seem to have ended up selecting the wrong part of your original response.

 

I have  the panel hooked up to my automation system and able to set/unset, capture status and when the alarm is activated but this is the one thing that i’d like another shot at getting working before i swap out the panel.

 

“You would have to remove the strobe wire and trigger it with the bell trigger”.  It’s specifically this that Im not sure about, when you say to trigger it with bell trigger, what do you mean and why trigger it with the bell? so that it turns on with the siren too? What does disconnecting the strobe wire do? Does it just result in the strobe not being automatically activated when the alarm is set (unless its configured to strobe on full set)?

 

Thanks again for your help

 

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That strobe terminal will pulse low if the system is full armed, whereas it will not if part armed.

I was suggesting to move any external bell wiring from that terminal to the bell trigger instead, so not to interfere with whatever you poke in there to try to interface with it.

This will mean the external strobe would only trigger when the bell is ringing, you wouldn't get a strobe flash on set if you do now.

It may work with both in there but I would generally want to isolate things like that to avoid issues.

I'm glad we are getting automation questions the alarm should be be presence detector in most setups 

Thanks - ill give this a go! Thanks again for your help

@james.wilson This is what I’m planning to use this for, we use the part set at night just to arm the ground floor - so being able to distinguish between the full set and part set enables me to tie automation in to the house being vacant and to only the upstairs being occupied (eg turn everything off on the ground floor vs turn the whole house off).

 

Ive configured push notifications for armed state and alarm activation but also additional capability such as when the alarm is triggered all lights turn on inside and outside the house and I get a notification with stills from all my cameras. There’s a lot of possibilities here.

 

I’m interfacing via a Konnected Interface device (konnected.io) to Hubitat (HA controller). This also enables me to use all my wired PIR sensors and door sensors fitted for the alarm as motion sensors directly (eg) for lighting automation.

cool stuff ?