little_john Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hi i have visonic pm30 panel with expander card and trying to connect a pyronix deltabell (using the light box face) i have got some info on expander and sounder connection, so far when i power it on with bell lid open it light up ok soon as i close the tamper on bell the bell go off (panel is ok and other wirless bell is ok) . i have closed the tamper and fault connection on bell just to try and stop it going off (was only going to wiring the tamper to z29 with resistor once bell is stable) any help or pointer woulds be greatfull. thanks Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 5 hours ago, little_john said: (was only going to wiring the tamper to z29 with resistor once bell is stable) any help or pointer woulds be greatfull. It will stabilize after you connect the Tamper Also select SCB mode on bell Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Not sure about the latest Visonic panels but the original panels only had a 9v output. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_john Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 Hi thanks for reply’s i am pulling my hair out with this (the expander is outputting 12V), i have now tried jumper on scb (bell still goes of when lid closed ?) and wired the tamper to z30 and set it on panel to 24h audible this is how i have got the connections EXPANDER ~ SIREN 12V ~ 12V GND ~ GND EXT - BELL SRN+ ~ ENGHOLD INT ~ STROBE Z29 (2.2K) ~ TAMP GND ~ TAMP On panel bridged tamp with 2.2k Jumper now on SCB Using Z30 as tamp and have set it to 24h audible have attached pic of other jumpers Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, little_john said: Hi thanks for reply’s i am pulling my hair out with this (the expander is outputting 12V), i have now tried jumper on scb (bell still goes of when lid closed ?) and wired the tamper to z30 and set it on panel to 24h audible this is how i have got the connections EXPANDER ~ SIREN 12V ~ 12V GND ~ GND EXT - BELL SRN+ ~ ENGHOLD INT ~ STROBE Z29 (2.2K) ~ TAMP GND ~ TAMP On panel bridged tamp with 2.2k Jumper now on SCB Using Z30 as tamp and have set it to 24h audible have attached pic of other jumpers What you mean set to 24h audible? Y? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_john Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, al-yeti said: What you mean set to 24h audible? Y? if bell is tampered with, set/unset it will produce alarm on the panel. when i close the lid the siren goes off, but nothing reported from the panel Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, little_john said: if bell is tampered with, set/unset it will produce alarm on the panel. when i close the lid the siren goes off, but nothing reported from the panel Confused In list you say z29 Than you say z30 Also battery isn't enabled Which deltabell is this ? You still got the box? With code on it? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_john Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 16 hours ago, al-yeti said: Confused In list you say z29 Than you say z30 Also battery isn't enabled Which deltabell is this ? You still got the box? With code on it? the part code FPDELTAX3MOD Deltabell X G3 Module, (backlit, twin piezo) i changed to z30 i got visonic data sheet for expander to hw bell and to refers to z30 all the time for tamper, how do i enable battery ? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, little_john said: the part code FPDELTAX3MOD Deltabell X G3 Module, (backlit, twin piezo) i changed to z30 i got visonic data sheet for expander to hw bell and to refers to z30 all the time for tamper, how do i enable battery ? All makes sense now I had this problem myself not wiring the g3 correctly , had to get mr alarm monkey to help me (JW) In picture you sent there's a link same batt int or ext , you need to select ext Then the g3 module is waiting for power on a terminal meaning another resistor You should have bought the G2 module would saved you lots of time Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_john Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 hours ago, al-yeti said: All makes sense now I had this problem myself not wiring the g3 correctly , had to get mr alarm monkey to help me (JW) In picture you sent there's a link same batt int or ext , you need to select ext Then the g3 module is waiting for power on a terminal meaning another resistor You should have bought the G2 module would saved you lots of time J4 can be selected as G3 / G2 ?, and J8 will set to ext, i cannot test it again until monday, just want to say thanks for your input with this. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/42493-hard-wired-bell-to-visonic/#findComment-480577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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