Guest old-hand Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I`m going to be brutal here ( some say I am Anyway) Pull the fuse, make sure the mains is off, and bin it. Buy something that will do far more for not a lot more. Then test all your wiring and fit the existing. It is a fine panel, just past its sell by date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawandorder Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I appreciate I could be an intruder asking for disabling info!I just want to put the system back working again. Two questions which hopefully wont give you security concerns!! At the moment the sysyem is on, is unarmed, and has the tamper light on. If I do nothing for the rest of the day, it is not likely to go off again is it? I caused the problem and it rang the bells for 20 mins, hopefully it can't do it again until it is fixed? I assume the safe way of working is to open control panel, alarm goes off, turn alarm off quickly with user code, leave control panel open and then work on PIR's? When you remove power to an external sounder (as you have done by blowing a fuse) it will sound for 20 mins but will not trigger again unless you apply power then remove it again so it should be ok now. If I were you I would do any other work you need to do before you restore power then carefully check that you have no shorts before replacing the fuse. Doing what you suggest will work but better to enter engineer programming mode. (detailed in your manual) But be aware that there will still be a 12 volt supply at the PIRs and causing a short will give you the same problem even if in engineer mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgironde Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Lawandorder, thanks for that last reply. Will the fuse always blow with a tamper circuit fault (me opening PIR)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawandorder Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Lawandorder, thanks for that last reply.Will the fuse always blow with a tamper circuit fault (me opening PIR)? No, opening a pir should not blow a fuse, it is more likely that you accidentally shorted some wires out as you did it but if you are convinced that you didn't then it is possible that the internal sounders (which would activate when you removed the cover) could blow the fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgironde Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 but is it only speculation that the fuse has blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest old-hand Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 No, opening a pir should not blow a fuse, it is more likely that you accidentally shorted some wires out as you did it but if you are convinced that you didn't then it is possible that the internal sounders (which would activate when you removed the cover) could blow the fuse. Opening a cover would not cause a fault unless the installer was a complete muppet. Internal sounders would not blow a fuse either unless the muppet was totally ignorant of security systems. I assume this has gone off before, no fuses blown? Someone who is conversant with security systems is now required IMHO. Guessing as Law is will not help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawandorder Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 but is it only speculation that the fuse has blown? Yes to be fair it is only speculation but the fact that all your PIRs are now dead coupled with the fact that your external sounder activated and you couldn't turn it off indicates that your 12 volts supply has gone. Given that you still have LEDs on the panel it is likely that it is the fuse which protects the aux power output which has blown. Easy enough to test it with a meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest old-hand Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Just be aware of mains (240 volts) is present in the panel and your conversant with working with such voltages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 off topic replies & comments removed. As said in removed, PM please guys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest old-hand Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 off topic replies & comments removed.As said in removed, PM please guys, was in pm. person tried to make it public XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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