dewaltdave Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hello Everyone, Rather Bravely / Stupidly I offered my assistance to a friend of mine in installing the mentioned alarm system to his garage. Now, Im not an alarm installer, specialist or anything of the sort, but Im not too stupid and give most things a bash. My previous alarm knowledge comes from designing and assisting in the installation of my own Galaxy 512 Panel. I have phoned Honeywell/ADE for some assistance, but because I am a DIY'er and not a company, they refused to help me at all. So I come asking for help . . . Im using an Elmdene Roller shutter contact (RED 4K7/2K2) and a Pyronix KX15DT Selectable EOL PIR as the only 2 zones and have installed the EXT Sounder already. My problem is that according to the info I have found ADE Panels use 4K7/2K2 but Honeywell use 1k/2k. Im getting kinda lost with the wiring of the roller shutter contact (ie what cables to use - its 6 core pre wired) and not too sure on values for the EOL on PIR. I cant seem to find anything in the instructions on adding in resistors or resistance values. I hope this makes sense to somebody who can help me! It would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Accenta/optima panels dont use resistors at all. They're just closed loop, i.e. short circuit (few ohms) = ok, open circuit (infinite ohms) = alarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewaltdave Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Accenta/optima panels dont use resistors at all. They're just closed loop, i.e. short circuit (few ohms) = ok, open circuit (infinite ohms) = alarm. I was hoping that would be the case. So I take it I dont put any headers on the EOL in the PIR then, to make it simple circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Quite right, keep it a simple closed cct loop. (resistors = fully supervised). You will need to change the roller for one like this http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog...products_id=177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewaltdave Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Quite right, keep it a simple closed cct loop. (resistors = fully supervised).You will need to change the roller for one like this http://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog...products_id=177 Great, thanks. No way of changing the roller - even by cutting, clipping or otherwise altering to make it CCT If I wire Pir like this after removing EOLs on PIR and use 4 wires it shoud work right ? assmuing red/blk are +/-ve and yellow/grn are to zone on panel. +ve | -ve | ALM | ALM | TAM | TAM red blk yell linked grn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 most graded contacts have an old fashioned alarm pair in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 yeah im pretty sure the elmdene has a clean pair, you will just need to find em with a meter. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewaltdave Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 yeah im pretty sure the elmdene has a clean pair, you will just need to find em with a meter. Ok i have a meter but i'm not sure what i'm looking for on the meter. I take it i'm not looking for any resistance change, just an open and closed circuit to trigger the panel. This should then be a two wire install if i'm getting the grasp of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawandorder Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Ok i have a meter but i'm not sure what i'm looking for on the meter. I take it i'm not looking for any resistance change, just an open and closed circuit to trigger the panel. This should then be a two wire install if i'm getting the grasp of things. Yes, you are looking for a dead short (well less than 1 ohm) when contact is closed and infinite resistance when the contact is open, just like a light switch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewaltdave Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 thank you all so much for your help. I'm sure i'll be back questions later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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