November 14, 200718 yr comment_183898 Hello, I am trying to wire up an SD1 dialler. The only part I am not 100% sure of is wiring it to the panels comms port. The panel removes 5 volts positive in alarm. So if I set the SD1 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr comment_183899 Old SD1? - 12v only remember though it`s looking for the change so you`ll not cause damage "So if I set the SD1 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183899 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr comment_183900 the SD1 can be set to + or - triggered inputs (can't remember but i there is i think a link/s) you will need to fit a 'pull down' bias resistor of 2.2k between negative (-) 12 volts and the input you using, do the same fore the other imputs with individual resistors. if your panel is 'removing' a strong positive but not actually applying a true negative, the SD1 needs a decent square wave to operate satisfactory so the ressistor applies enough negative to do this. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183900 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr comment_183903 the SD1 can be set to + or - triggered inputs (can't remember but i there is i think a link/s)you will need to fit a 'pull down' bias resistor of 2.2k between negative (-) 12 volts and the input you using, do the same fore the other imputs with individual resistors. if your panel is 'removing' a strong positive but not actually applying a true negative, the SD1 needs a decent square wave to operate satisfactory so the ressistor applies enough negative to do this. regs alan Simply put the removal of 12V + to 0v is not negative, just zero, the old menvier dialers needed a true negative signal to work as I found out..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183903 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr comment_183905 Just out of interest, why use an SD1 when you can use an SD2 that has much better facilities and alarm logging etc.....?? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183905 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr Author comment_183913 Old SD1? - 12v only remember though it`s looking for the change so you`ll not cause damage "So if I set the SD1’s trigger polarity to negative will it be ok or will it damage the SD1? Since if the SD1 is expecting a negative supply on the trigger inputs when it gets a positive supply because the alarm has not been triggered" - thats how they work It’s the old SD1. The spec I have found says "Trigger inputs A, B, C +ve or –ve applied, max 24V". I was thinking that it was only looking for a change but wanted to be on the safe side. the SD1 can be set to + or - triggered inputs (can't remember but i there is i think a link/s)you will need to fit a 'pull down' bias resistor of 2.2k between negative (-) 12 volts and the input you using, do the same fore the other imputs with individual resistors. if your panel is 'removing' a strong positive but not actually applying a true negative, the SD1 needs a decent square wave to operate satisfactory so the ressistor applies enough negative to do this. regs alan In the manual I have which is not the SD1's manual but the old SD1+ its says a 1k resistor. So is the 2.2k resistor still ok then? I will be passing Maplins tomorrow so I just ask for a 2.2k resistor. Is this one ok Code: D2K2, 2W Res 2K2? I think what happens is the panel does not apply a negative it just removes the positive 5 voltages. Just out of interest, why use an SD1 when you can use an SD2 that has much better facilities and alarm logging etc.....?? I know the newer diallers are better like having more features. This dialler is not very old. I can’t remember but I don’t think it was installed for very long. It was put in a safe place, which was forgotten about. I was thinking about buying a newer one but I knew I had this one. Thankyou djrock Edited November 14, 200718 yr by djrock Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183913 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr comment_183914 Or just fire it off the bell ( forget what this lot are bound to say next) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183914 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr Author comment_183915 Or just fire it off the bell ( forget what this lot are bound to say next) I know I can trigger it off the bell output but I wanted to try and use the panels comm port if I can. Thankyou djrock Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183915 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr comment_183916 I know I can trigger it off the bell output but I wanted to try and use the panels comm port if I can.Thankyou djrock what panel is it? does it have a relay board available? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183916 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 14, 200718 yr Author comment_183917 Hello, I don't think it can take a relay board. So is it not possible to do it arfur mo's way? djrock Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/21312-sd1-dialler/#findComment-183917 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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