Guest anguscanplay Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 )belch) any more of this and we will be into the brandy laced Ovaltinethe g593 is the cut down single dwelling version of the g595, the keypads are the same and where the memory for the g-tgs ids held (thats why you have to program them into each keypad) they do not have the needed pins. put it this way, those who did not want this mode moved the memory shoting jumper onto the those selector pins which are now missing lets settle for this as i can't download anything from gardtech's site, why don't you phone g-tech tomorrow get it from the horses mouth (so to speak) truce till then B) regs alan I dont need to - I got the manual here on my desk , will try again to upload it , they dont need the selector pins cause they dont let you use the high security mode anymore bet youve more than once left the pins, that are there, shorted out and lost the tags when the powers gone off - its not thanks to us moaning that they now ship em open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I dont need to - I got the manual here on my desk , will try again to upload it , they dont need the selector pins cause they dont let you use the high security mode anymore bet youve more than once left the pins, that are there, shorted out and lost the tags when the powers gone off - its not thanks to us moaning that they now ship em open ? no! no! no! the memory pins come shorted (AS ADVISED IN THE MANUAL FOR POWER UP), you move the memory link after power up or the keypads won't sync the rolling fob codes. if you initially power up with those links removed on two or more keypads, then enter a tag at rkp1 U11, do the same at another rkp you knock out that tag at rkp 1 - trust me with the ace fobs, you have to keep the transmit button pressed until entered in all the keypads, i've got one job with 5 keypads on a fairly vast estate - and thumbs like thighs because of it regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 ?no! no! no! the memory pins come shorted (AS ADVISED IN THE MANUAL FOR POWER UP), you move the memory link after power up or the keypads won't sync the rolling fob codes. if you initially power up with those links removed on two or more keypads, then enter a tag at rkp1 U11, do the same at another rkp you knock out that tag at rkp 1 - trust me with the ace fobs, you have to keep the transmit button pressed until entered in all the keypads, i've got one job with 5 keypads on a fairly vast estate - and thumbs like thighs because of it regs alan forget the ace stuff ( thats were your getting confused ) G-TAG keypads come with jumper labeled NVM31 open - they advise shorting them on power up to delete the existing tags ( because there might be one already in there and it will still be there after you put yours in - see ) - now in the last 2 days I have powered up 2 sites both with 2 keypads both with the pins open and both of them accepted all the tags in each keypad with no problemo ( not saying you didnt loose a tag at rkp1 U11 but it was nowt to do with powering up ) each tag works all 4 keypad ( and each tag entered the same number into each pad ) go get one and set it up if it made a difference i would post a piccy of the next one out the box but I fitted tham all - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 forget the ace stuff ( thats were your getting confused ) G-TAG keypads come with jumper labeled NVM31 open - they advise shorting them on power up to delete the existing tags ( because there might be one already in there and it will still be there after you put yours in - see ) - now in the last 2 days I have powered up 2 sites both with 2 keypads both with the pins open and both of them accepted all the tags in each keypad with no problemo ( not saying you didnt loose a tag at rkp1 U11 but it was nowt to do with powering up ) each tag works all 4 keypad ( and each tag entered the same number into each pad )go get one and set it up if it made a difference i would post a piccy of the next one out the box but I fitted tham all - lol just emailed tech support for answer, so if they respond i will post it may be software changes have made a difference, i don't always supply fobs or have multipe keypads, but i do know from manny hours of frustration to bridge that memory link on power up then remove it. i'll tru to be clear with this one, if you have several keypads and a colleague who can run round with the tags, you get into the user code section at rkp1 enter your tag/s, he go's rkp2 but you stay at rkp1 go into codes, enter the user position then at your signal he offers the tag at the distant rkp - so you don't need to be at the keypad concerned to get programming into user codes mode. that save's all the annoying 'in and outing' of the master code features at each keypad which saves time. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 just emailed tech support for answer, so if they respond i will post it may be software changes have made a difference, i don't always supply fobs or have multipe keypads, but i do know from manny hours of frustration to bridge that memory link on power up then remove it. i'll tru to be clear with this one, if you have several keypads and a colleague who can run round with the tags, you get into the user code section at rkp1 enter your tag/s, he go's rkp2 but you stay at rkp1 go into codes, enter the user position then at your signal he offers the tag at the distant rkp - so you don't need to be at the keypad concerned to get programming into user codes mode. that save's all the annoying 'in and outing' of the master code features at each keypad which saves time. regs alan never have I heard such drivel if your in menu`s at kp1 all you see at kp2 is " system in use please wait " - ah it guesses your ready to input a tag does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 just emailed tech support for answer, so if they respond i will post it may be software changes have made a difference, i don't always supply fobs or have multipe keypads, but i do know from manny hours of frustration to bridge that memory link on power up then remove it. i'll tru to be clear with this one, if you have several keypads and a colleague who can run round with the tags, you get into the user code section at rkp1 enter your tag/s, he go's rkp2 but you stay at rkp1 go into codes, enter the user position then at your signal he offers the tag at the distant rkp - so you don't need to be at the keypad concerned to get programming into user codes mode. that save's all the annoying 'in and outing' of the master code features at each keypad which saves time. regs alan that bunch of idiots will tell you whatever you want to hear, the other day i had to get some new leads and software to unlock a panel, it would not connect to the panel. they got me to do some very odd[seemed pointless readings] and told me the power circuit on the panel was faulty and it was not powering the digicom port. this was after the third trip to risco counter due to being given the wrong leads. they say the panel [800] would need to be swapped out, i wasn't happy with their diagnosis. so i spent that night messing around with the lappy, the leads and an 800 at home, it did the same. yet again a faulty lead, managed to find the dodgy link in the lead and got it linked up with the panel. went back the nextday and unlocked the customers panel first time. So in short they would of had us rip the customer off due to their lack of knowledge, subsequently that number was deleted from the mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave the alarm man Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 never have I heard such drivel stick around so i spent that night messing around with the lappy, the leads and an 800 at home, it did the same.yet again a faulty lead......................So in short they would of had us rip the customer off due to their lack of knowledge just shocking.....................a working copy or remote fluck me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 never have I heard such drivel if your in menu`s at kp1 all you see at kp2 is " system in use please wait " - ah it guesses your ready to input a tag does it no drivel, you simply signal you assistant to present the tag/s this also worked on the ACE receivers too, do you remember the ace remote? 3 little lights 3 little buttons, thats why the feature was there as you culd not initiat it otherwise - it not having the ability to give a display or have full numeric keypad . another smarty tip, you could use the 123 to set/part-et/unsetkeys if you set a code with those 3 digit's like 2132 and i thought you were a Gardtec engineer? lol! regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 no drivel, you simply signal you assistant to present the tag/s this also worked on the ACE receivers too, do you remember the ace remote? 3 little lights 3 little buttons, thats why the feature was there as you culd not initiat it otherwise - it not having the ability to give a display or have full numeric keypad . another smarty tip, you could use the 123 to set/part-et/unsetkeys if you set a code with those 3 digit's like 2132 and i thought you were a Gardtec engineer? lol! regs alan I`ll give you the ace setting for sure , but get with the kids - ace for goodness sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinnitus Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I`ll give you the ace setting for sure , but get with the kids - ace for goodness sake this is good stuff. i didnt realise any of this about pins on the rkp's. i have just been adding fobs to all fitted rkp's but i was sure i didnt do it on the first few installs. i posted this before on here. Angus, if possible can you paraphrase what you are saying from powering up to adding fobs? dont worry if you cant be a***d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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