August 10, 200718 yr comment_174706 B & Q ABOUT Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174706 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 10, 200718 yr comment_174708 You may wire to outside lights/sockets as long as the cable enters directly into the rear of the fitting. Difficult with a flood! Seriously - not 100% sure on exact wordoligy, so not too sure if this counts or not! Whats others views? This all assumes you are not creating a new circuit, or extending from one in a special location or kitchen. sorry lectrition but you cannot do sockets without part p certs - lights were exempted in the rethink Angus ( havnt i read you on screwfix? ) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174708 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 11, 200718 yr comment_174835 sorry lectrition but you cannot do sockets without part p certs - lights were exempted in the rethink Angus ( havnt i read you on screwfix? ) I thought you could do a spur? However, it's all getting too unclear. I've got another spare socket upstairs that I can plug into and run the flex along the skirting for a few feet then out through the wall. Doing it this way will need a PIR-switched floodlight whereas before I was going to use a manually-switched one. But then I've still got some old red/black cored T+E lying around..... Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174835 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 11, 200718 yr comment_174844 I thought you could do a spur?However, it's all getting too unclear. I've got another spare socket upstairs that I can plug into and run the flex along the skirting for a few feet then out through the wall. Doing it this way will need a PIR-switched floodlight whereas before I was going to use a manually-switched one. But then I've still got some old red/black cored T+E lying around..... Exactly, Just shows how ridiculous the rules and regs are. Also, if i recall correctly, weren't they selling the new colour cable before the regs came into force?? if so, who is to say when the modification took place? Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174844 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 11, 200718 yr comment_174846 With some defined exceptions, Part P requires electrical work in dwellings (houses) To be either self certified by a person of assessed competence ie. Sparky, or notified to local Building Control, who may (for a fee) arrange inspection of the work. This is not a comprehensive interpretation of the Regulations, but the info below will explain the situation as most people understand it. 1. Provided no new circuit is created, (e.g. no additional fuseway or circuit breaker is added to the consumer unit), and the work in not in a kitchen or special location ie. bathrooms, outside any where with high humidity then the addition of an unswitched fused spur to an existing ring main for the purposes of an intruder alarm system is not required to be notified to Building Control under Part P of the Building Regulations, provided that no part of any of the of the installation work undertaken compromises the building Never Teach Your Apprentice Everything You Know Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174846 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 11, 200718 yr comment_174849 Never Teach Your Apprentice Everything You Know. Very unwise advice in my view. The only way to progress is to freely share your knowledge and skills with others. And what does your latin motto mean? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174849 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 11, 200718 yr comment_174853 Very unwise advice in my view. The only way to progress is to freely share your knowledge and skills with others.And what does your latin motto mean? IMO if you teach your apprentice everything you know 1.) He won't have to think for him self 2.) (and most importantly) one day he may take your job. And as such I'm not telling you what the Latin means....... (crule to be kind) Edited August 11, 200718 yr by Whitenoise Never Teach Your Apprentice Everything You Know Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174853 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 12, 200718 yr comment_174950 Well, I took the trouble to actually READ the full Part P document (yes, I know I'm mad). I tracked it down on the Planning Portal at http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/b...DF_ADP_2006.pdf Beware it's 46 pages, almost 5MB and it's a locked PDF so you can't cut and paste from it - to make you buy the Edited August 12, 200718 yr by amateurandy Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174950 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 12, 200718 yr comment_174952 Well, I took the trouble to actually READ the full Part P document (yes, I know I'm mad). I tracked it down on the Planning Portal at http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/b...DF_ADP_2006.pdf Beware it's 46 pages, almost 5MB and it's a locked PDF so you can't cut and paste from it - to make you buy the Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174952 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
August 12, 200718 yr comment_174953 Andy, you are bonkers mate, LOL.When I was in the corporate world (in IT) part of (most of) my job(s) was detailed understanding of contracts, as both buyer and seller. So I can wade through stuff like this really quite quickly to get to the relevant bits and real meaning. B)would make a good chief engineer i think.Too easy, and doesn't pay enough........... Edited August 12, 200718 yr by amateurandy Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/19859-security-lights/page/3/#findComment-174953 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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