arfur mo Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 wouldnt be so bad if we were discussing the actions of a DIY installer but this guys trade we all gotta learn somewhere 'son' lol regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 we all gotta learn somewhere 'son' lol regs alan learn ? or re-invent the wheel so it doesnt actually turn anymore ? sooner people realise that things are done the way they are for a reason the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSS Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 only problem with that idea is both the bells and the internal sirens, including the keypad bleeper are to be delayed for 3 minute's, and there is no provision for line fault to overide the delay. cutting the phone line (which is not unusual) will give intruders 3 minutes 'free' time.this idea is just such a very bad one, and a complete 'non runner' imo for the reasons stated earlier regs alan true, consider it a work around... It is not a good idea for a customer. Suggest you trigger the dialer off the bell output and also the bell (if current capacity allows) and loop the bell and LS feed through a relay(s) attached to one of the vocaliser outputs. Thus when you are connected to the vocaliser by phone, you can turn off the bell so that you can listen in. As for the other items on your outputs you may need to connect them together into the other output. There must be a compromise... This way the bell will always sound immediately which is good. And you can turn off the bell/LS so that you can listen in TSS Communication is "A question asked, and an Opinion given." I offer mine to help you with yours. Statements I make are my personal views only at the time they are posted, if I offend you sorry, must be taken in context and do not neccesarily represent those of my employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 what happens if they " hear " something - call the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Good point ArfurVocaliser is designed to be an audio CONFIRMATION device very correct - and is no better than that. unlike with an ARC, it has at best only a random chance of communicating to someone responsible for the system within the 3 minute timer window, when the sirens cut in the whole point of this intended design is lost. when used properly as a reactive (not pro active) warning as is intended it, the time frame is not such important an issue. i can just imagine, 'granny' comes in to water the flowers and trips the alarm, keyholder booms out over the tanoy side "who's in my house?" granny, being a bit mutton jeff thinks it's God calling her and suffer's a heart attack because she' was an athiest - until then lol regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 what happens if they " hear " something - call the police nah! just fill in the insurrance claim while on the beach regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 learn ? or re-invent the wheel so it doesnt actually turn anymore ? sooner people realise that things are done the way they are for a reason the better sound knowledge is born from experience, we all have had 'bright idea's' i'd bet, until they were thought through or tried in practice only to find the out the embarresing pitfalls. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 sound knowledge is born from experience, we all have had 'bright idea's' i'd bet, until they were thought through or tried in practice only to find the out the embarresing pitfalls.regs alan my best bright ideas were tried at home not on some poor unsuspecting paying customer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 my best bright ideas were tried at home not on some poor unsuspecting paying customer e.g Put the following words in the correct order camera a nailing a tree up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 my best bright ideas were tried at home not on some poor unsuspecting paying customer well i beleive you - yeh right! regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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