February 10, 200719 yr comment_150345 It is a newish house i am only one thats lived there - the master socket is in lounge and been unused Is the wiring visible (i.e. standard BT surface-fixed) or hidden under floorboards and chased in etc ? If all hidden, likely to have been installed but the builders, but could be they left it disconnected etc but with a joint through for the extension. Of course might it be that the point is cabled correctly on the working circuit but its a simple as a faulty linejack, perhaps bent pins etc, so the line gets there and extension wires off back ok but no connection to the BT431a plug on the telephone ? Just a few ideas. Simon ToneTel Telecom www.tonetel.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-150345 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 11, 200719 yr Author comment_150605 Is the wiring visible (i.e. standard BT surface-fixed) or hidden under floorboards and chased in etc ?If all hidden, likely to have been installed but the builders, but could be they left it disconnected etc but with a joint through for the extension. Of course might it be that the point is cabled correctly on the working circuit but its a simple as a faulty linejack, perhaps bent pins etc, so the line gets there and extension wires off back ok but no connection to the BT431a plug on the telephone ? Just a few ideas. Simon The cables are up the outside of house and it looks like the extension is connected from he outside and i have just found that the upstairs doesnt work either only the extension, when we moved in I got the builder to put the extension in and have never used the one where master socket is.? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-150605 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 11, 200719 yr comment_150608 Thank you i will try and get back to you You never did! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-150608 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 13, 200719 yr Author comment_151036 You never did! Sorry. i am working away all this week will try when i get home. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-151036 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 13, 200719 yr comment_151053 Sorry. i am working away all this week will try when i get home. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-151053 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 20, 200719 yr Author comment_153031 I have looked and outside the cables connects to a cable that runs round the house (extension) there looks to be 3 wires from the "mains" that go around the house to the socket that works. how do i connect into the cable to "fire" up the socket in lounge? ta Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-153031 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 20, 200719 yr comment_153074 I have looked and outside the cables connects to a cable that runs round the house (extension) there looks to be 3 wires from the "mains" that go around the house to the socket that works.how do i connect into the cable to "fire" up the socket in lounge? ta Sorry if I missed something here? Have you pulled off the front of the BT master socket and tested it yet? Newish house with cables outside? Who did that?? Is there a j-box outside or what? Where are you connecting these 3 wires too? Need more info to help you further Bellman.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-153074 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 20, 200719 yr comment_153092 From an X- comms engineer, if you can dial out and hear the lady on the other end and it cuts out, it could well be a fault on the line, or you have exceeded your REN. Try this, and its a useful number for all engineers wanting to test a line. Dial ####, "BT line test facility" Ex directory number removed by mod. AG. If its an X-Directory line you will not get the optiuon for a ringback test, if it is Press 4 and clear down (Hang up) The handset should ring back in 5 seconds. If it doesn't check pins 3 and 4 are punched into the secondary output on the Master. If the problem persists, then its a call to BT, But as previously mentioned, they will charge you, unless your a tall blond who does cash in hand jobs..... Richard www.accesscontrol.ie richard.huison@accesscontrol.ie ACT "Where performance counts" "Is your Access Control system Vista Ready?" Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-153092 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 20, 200719 yr comment_153097 From an X- comms engineer, if you can dial out and hear the lady on the other end and it cuts out, it could well be a fault on the line, or you have exceeded your REN. Try this, and its a useful number for all engineers wanting to test a line.Dial *****, "BT line test facility" If its an X-Directory line you will not get the optiuon for a ringback test, if it is Press 4 and clear down (Hang up) Richard Try 1470 ***** (Mods don't like this number in public) this will then give you all options, however I think there is a pin number being used as well sometimes now.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-153097 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 21, 200719 yr comment_153215 unless your a tall blond who does cash hand jobs.....Richard Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/15621-phone-problem/page/2/#findComment-153215 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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