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29 minutes ago, Imnotshankled said:
I literally have downloaded the texecom veritas and premier RNRR tool, pyronix Anti code tool, technistore remote reset and Orisec remote reset online and it wasn't hard at all
But then again does it really matter how likely is this to happen
domestics almost never have monitoring and if so it's most likely keyholder monitoring and if they are paying that much for monitoring they will be willing to call someone else out
For commercial where police monitoring is common for medium to high value shops in all cases they will always call a engineer in
1 minute ago, sixwheeledbeast said:Congratulations for downloading software without license...
You don't even need to be registered on most of them literally anyone can access them from the manufacturer
Pyronix takes the cake as it literally online
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On 29/10/2022 at 15:07, MrHappy said:
It's a low security thing...
Unless they are a subscriber they won't get an antii code in the modern world of internet it's don't really matter
I literally have downloaded the texecom veritas and premier RNRR tool, pyronix Anti code tool, technistore remote reset and Orisec remote reset online and it wasn't hard at all
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Who remembers the anti code reset units
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7 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
Linking the TR to 0v will disable the bell tamper loop (on most panels) to rule out the panel being an issue, which is unlikely but possible.
Not too keen on Deltabell. Any "wired SAB external sounder" should do, many manufacturers from CQR, Honeywell, Texecom, Pyronix. Scantronic/Eaton have one which is most likely to have wiring diagram for 9853 if you need.
They may come as two pieces lid and backplate, companies would have the lid screen printed in bulk so they often come separate.
Strobe flash is high voltage don't go poking it. Electrocution and working at height not a good combination.
Honeywell bells are awful who remembers the sonade bells
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58 minutes ago, JimM said:
Thanks guys, guess the obvious thing to check is continuity of the cable and if that's OK invest in new bell box.
Are bell boxes generic or would I need a specific make\model, any suggestions of what to get.
Thanks
Wired bells are universal would recommend something like a pyronix delta bell
As al said try linking the tamper at the bell to see if the fault goes away if it does its the bell that's faulty
If it doesn't its the cable that is faulty
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26 minutes ago, JimM said:
Hi, our Scantronic 9853 alarm went off last night, put in the user code to stop it and it came up with a BELL TAMPER message on the display and I could not set the alarm again. Tried going into installer mode but when it came out again the same BELL TAMPER message appeared.
This morning I took the lid off the panel to check for loose wires etc but all looked OK, however the anti tamper alarm didn't sound but assumed this was because the alarm wasn't set and had the tamper messaeg displayed. I also opened up the bell box and the anti tamper did kick in so that appears to be working OK but I now have BELL TAMPER and LID TAMPER messages on the display and can't seem to clear them, also noticed that the other keypads have a BUSY message on them.I'm hoping that the alarm triggered by some random event and it will all be OK after a reset but any ideas on what I need to do to clear the tamper messages to enable me to be able to set the alarm again?
ThanksBell box probably packed up
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6 hours ago, Adam0Enya said:
Thanks for the advice! Are you able to draw a diagram as I am not so clued up with it. Also, how do I program via the keypad to recognise the sensor is for entry exit?
I would recommend getting a engineer in to wire it if you are confused
But I hope this helps
wire output a to zone 8
Wire output b to zone 9
And wire fault output to zone 10
using the provided diagram
Connect 12v and 0v to panel 12v and 0v
Connect arm to pgm on panel
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5 hours ago, Adam0Enya said:
I have a pyronix euro mini hardwired system which I'm trying to connect a UR2-WE receiver to I can add additional wireless sensors. How do I wire in the UR2, and secondly, how do I set up on the alarm the UR2
You wire the 2 on board zones to the panel, fault to a 3rd zone and follow the manual to add detectors
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5 hours ago, PeterJames said:
Not sure that you have seen or used all the apps, I accept that the free ones will work most of the time, after all a stopped clock is right twice a day
Define planned, most that I see have some planning, ie they know when the the kids are being picked up from school, or when the occupants are away. I have been to too many houses that were burgled while the owners were having their two weeks in the sun, tell me thats not planned. Opportunist burglaries are usually due to something like a window left open or seeing someone leaving the house.
GSM dialer cant tell you when its not working, a dualcom is polled every hour or every 20 min depending on the grade, the arC will call keyholders when it fails to pole, if you have a gsm dialler you are blissfully unaware. I have had customers that regularly forgot to top up their PAYG sim in their dialer.
You are beginning to turn into Arfur, Logan
If you are having to top up your pay as you go sim perhaps you should look into fixing those false alarms
I do have quite a few sites with csl digiairs with keyholder response including my house but most customers will quite adamantly not pay the £75 a year cost but then again its thier choice not mine
At least I'm not selling a system that has "guard response" with some very questionable kit and installers like some certain company
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23 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
What use is a security product that works 99% of the time in general use, but 0% of the time if attacked or jammed
Planned attacks are rare according to statistics 85% of break ins are not conducted by professional burglars
I don't just rely on app notifications as even I know that all alarm apps are awful
But the GSM speech dialler is perfectly reliable for domestics which uses the exact same signals as a csl dualcom
in fact from experience it can take up to 5 minutes of the dualcom being offline before the customer even gets informed and on some older versus units you don't get a offline message at all
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6 hours ago, MrHappy said:
Pyronix, small fee for app access
Texecom small fee to have installer access
Orisec no fees
Pyronix is the more polished app panel IMHO
Pyronix app is definitely the best
orisec app with GSM SD works perfectly fine for most domestics and has transmitted the signals successfully on several genuine break ins
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37 minutes ago, PeterJames said:
Only if its working when you need it to. People come here for advice, if we just said yeah that'l do and then they were burgled because the system failed then we would not be providing good advice would we. If something is unreliable, we should say so, and we all know that the free apps have been very unreliable.
I haven't had any issues with the orisec app over gsm
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On 16/10/2021 at 21:33, james.wilson said:
Re an app or service for free how reliable do you expect it to be?
It's better than nothing
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2 hours ago, PeterJames said:
Removing two external sounders diy what could possibly go wrong.....
Take mr H's advice, or have the pointing done around them if you really cant afford an engineer. It would just save you falling out with your neighbours.
Well then again there's the faithful hammer if all goes wrong
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13 hours ago, MrHappy said:
Don't lie I know it's on your Christmas wishlist
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1 hour ago, MrHappy said:
j2 is a undocumented feature which could open a portal to a parallel universe ??
That's not what it does it does nothing as exciting as that
it just causes the entire universe to get sucked in a black hole
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12 hours ago, MrHappy said:
Probably...
12 hours ago, KrisN said:I have a Eurosec CP8L, which is functioning properly. However, whilst replacing the battery I noticed a link, J2, but can find no reference to it in any literature.
Anyone know its purpose? Is it to short-out the tamper switch?
Link j2 is for the tamper switch for the metal version of this panel
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12 minutes ago, dlucas said:
I will have to check on what the insurance situation is going to be as I am not sure who is actually going to end up insuring this new building. The building could be covered under the existing insurance for the sports and social club that owns all of the other buildings on site. If not then we need to insure it and then it will depend upon what our policy requires. I will pass this information to our committee members and see if they can get some information on where things stand.
Tbh what I learned is most insurer's (here at least)don't care or mandate a alarm system for most domestics and small low value commercial the only places I know that demanded a insurance approved alarm are large commercial and high risk commercial but always check before though most of my customers just want the alarm for peace of mind and not for insurance
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3 hours ago, MrHappy said:
Everything where IT or Electricians have been in involved will be a pile of poop & a waste of money
I hate IT well after they cut all my ethernet cables for my less then 2 week old cameras
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7 hours ago, Manuela said:
Hi, we have the system installed for years at home but never connected to the control unit. Today we put the new batteries and connected everything, the problem is that we do not remember the code to activate and deactivate the alarm. Is there a way to reset and enter a new code? Thanks a lot for the answer
Unfortunately we can't put defaulting information in this fourm
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12 hours ago, MrHappy said:
Someone's a bit optimistic
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1 hour ago, CARETAKER46 said:
Thanks.
so i need to have 13.6 volts reading on the battery.
Is this without connecting to the panel ?
No not the battery the leads the battery plugs into
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7 minutes ago, CARETAKER46 said:
Thanks i usually change the battery when it can not hold it any longer when the power cuts happen. Which Charger i need to check ?
Make sure you get around 13.6 volts on the battery leads
Scantronic 9600 "CANNOT RESET"
in Control Panels (Public)
Posted
Just because its old it doesn't need replacement if it's tested and serviced it doesn't need replacing unless it fails
I find that most estate agents don't give a **** about the alarm system working or not