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Old 41A control, one zone, with shunt lock
Does anyone recall in the 70s going into the police stations control rooms to work on the original direct lines to the police, seem to recall a large unit taking 10-20 modules, with red, green, amber lights on,, red for alarm, amber for line fault and green for clear, along with a toggle switch to silence buzzer. This was a private wire provided by BT direct from the police station to the protected premises. Be great to see any photos if you have any
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Internal of the 41A
Sorry for the delay m8, Will take a look, may have an old 43A that's one up from the 41a with shunt lock, its the one with an E/E timer Cheers
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Internal of the 41A
Yes I remember installing the Mod 88 great dialers, and working on the Mod 80, with the long loop tape and a carry handle on the top! Hi, yes had the plastic part, had used iit on the 43a, with the exit timer, unsure what shorrok called these controls, did they know them as 41a,43a, 44 etc
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Old Shorrock 1500
I remember and installed the model 80, 88 etc dialers when you could call 999 either by the tape or electronically.
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OLD alarm Equipment details
- Old 41A control, one zone, with shunt lock
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Texecom Odyssey X1 and X3 backlight issue
Its now the end of October Texecom still have not supplied promised replacement LED strips, seems all i speak to have stopped or never used these boxes, but it's the customers who are now unhappy. Texcom letting installers down, how hard can it be to send a few parts?
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Texecom Odyssey X1 and X3 backlight issue
Hi all, Odyssey X external sounders illuminated Re the TEXCOM backlit boxes, mine have all failed, some totally out, some just a few of the LEDS, I contacted Texcom they replied saying you can replace the LED strip, and quoted part number, Thank you for contacting Texecom Support. The Odyssey Back Light LED can be purchased via your supplier. The Part Code for the LED is WDC-0003. I cannot find any supplier with these parts in stock!! The other issue is the time taken to get up to the unit, get into or even open the many plastic parts, up a ladder no chance or remove and take back to the bench where it is so difficult to open, along with the hundreds of insects, nests, spiders, moths who made it home. I spent a few hours opening it up, trying to clean it, next time I would buy a new box, but not an illuminated one, nice idea, great design but failed in so many ways for engineers. Expensive costs to basically attend to a faulty or failed LED strip. Back in my early days the biggest issue was rusting bell boxes, then we got the C Type from CQR, thought the days of bell box issues was over Comments and suggestions, anyone else suffering the same issue?
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Internal sounder/speaker
It is just a 16 ohm extension speaker, not sure there was a make, fitted hundreds, just a standard supply from GGS or AA wholesalers
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online security products
Hi, Has anyone come across a company online security products ? They seem to list items for sale, but show the wrong / different item / photo, or send a different item. So the first photo, PSU is what is advertised, the second is what you get, they say they do the same job. I guess a mini does the same as a fiesta but not the same! The next listed as a sounder, but a speaker is sent. PA button as white plastic but a stainless steel one is sent, they explained I might have to remove the white film to turn it into a white plastic one. Be grateful for any feedback if others have used them, some reviews and replies online do not good for the industry. Hope this may help someone. Cheers
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Alarm Cables, 4,6,8 core
Hi, Just as an update, I wondered if the inner core colour of alarm cable was a standard, having used the same for 40 years, so I asked the BSI. The reply was odd, they say Germany use all white inner cores for security! There is no colour coding for the inner cores The rip cord colour specifies the cable Type i.e. Type 1, 2 or 3." but did not say the colours to what grade. Has anyone got a copy of BS4737 ? what does that say about cables? BS4737-3.30 New Security Cable Standards
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Alarm Cables, 4,6,8 core
Cheers guys, much appreciated, the rubbish cable I bought was nearly five pounds per hundred metres more than the CQR cable. I have still not managed to find out if there is a BS 4737 standard colour for alarm cable cores, but have written to BSI.
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Alarm Cables, 4,6,8 core
Thanks all, the cable was not bought on cost, and was normal price. As a now retired engineer most security wholesalers will only supply a reg company, and I live in a rural location now so going to a trade counter not an easy option. The company have stated today there are no standard colours for alarm cable, yet for over 40 years have only ever seen red, black, yellow, blue, green, white, brown, Orange. I also use mainly 8c cables. Anyone suggest a wholesaler who does not need a reg installer, account or can supply by post?
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Alarm Cables, 4,6,8 core
recently purchased some 100m alarm cable reels, in 4, 6 and 6 core. Has anyone had problems with cables recently? the quality is so poor, the outer insulation will not strip easily, and the inner cores are so fine, that when you manage to strip them, the conductor is so fine it will not push into an open connector on a panel or even connector strip. To add insult to injury the colours are way off, some had no yellow, but grey/white, the green so dark it looks like black, I told the supplier but said no one else has commented. I know I am getting older! What cable does anyone recommend? see a few photos attached.
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Hello all from an engineer from the 70s
Cheers, Yes they were fun, Detectors were a lot bigger then, and less reliable!!
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Shorrock 170 bell box
The Old Metal Shorrock boxes were around in the 70s, they had a Yale lock on them for access, (all the same key) with a Friedland Bell inside, and a G1470 12v battery (I think) for the SAB module, they were metalic blue, later ones were just navy blue, then a lighter blue. They were very strong, inside with a metal bar over the bell which the lock operated into. Sadly they were rust buckets, so never lasted long, so doubt any are around now, unless fitted in a sheltered position.
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New stapler time!
Still using my old faithful BIF Titan twin impact cable tacker I guess from around 1975-1980s, cannot get the BIF staples now so used the Rapid 28/10 and what others I can get hold of these days. Usually found if it miss fired it was the wrong staple. Often stripped mine down to maintain it. Always found it fine on 4,6,8 core cables as longs as you take care.
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Old Shorrock 1500
What happy memories!! with A&G, AES, and Graham Lowe,were they from Oldham? I grew up using a basic panel we called the 41a and 43a they were a very well finished box with a quality lid (magnetic strip on) the 41a was a shunt lock and the 43a had a basic EE timer, indicators were green clear, red fault, yellow call engineer, (extra red lamp for the 43a) Yale key barrel, and a bell test button, does anyone else recall these, in two tone grey. They came via Shorrok I think.
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Hello all from an engineer from the 70s
Started in the early 70s doing alarms, lots of tube and wire frames!! painted bell boxes, self recorded tapes for auto dialers, dry batteries even in the SAB, some great panels at that time all key operated, no codes, so read with interest when others talk about the old Shorrok panels and mod 88 units, G Lowe, A&G, AES, Castle, Racel, GGS, to name a few.
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- jhs
- j hoyle
- north west
- wedge alarms
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