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2 hours ago, MrHappy said:
ta, quite modern looking for the 60's ?
They are pretty modern looking, brocks seemed to always be ahead of the game. Look at two of the most well known companies in the industry, AFA and rely a bell; they were still hard wiring telephone relays whereas Brocks had circuit boards with transistorised circuits with built in bandit circuits and such. I've seen the diagram for the PC panels that came out around 1965/66, very very fancy technology wise for the time.
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7 hours ago, MrHappy said:
never seen one, my pic is from the service yard of Queens House in Hull
Here's one
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On 22/11/2023 at 16:33, MrHappy said:
Gold coloured ?
Yes. The original brocks alarm bell cover from 1962 to around 71 were gold coloured.
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On 31/01/2023 at 11:42, MrHappy said:
Lol saw this today & knew it was someone's avatar
Can't recall seeing one around here before
Old that is. 1972 I think these came out after they stopped using the gold brocks.
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That looks like an old AFA panel. Usually they had those bell relays and the sigma low relay in a blue AFA drum fitted inside the premises. Are there any more photos of this system?
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On 19/01/2022 at 04:07, james.wilson said:
Is this for a museum?
Nah, do it for enjoyment
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20 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
OOI. Do you refurb these? Would it matter if the PCB wasn't period?
I refurb them yeah, bell boxs, bells and panels too. I think it matters if the PCB wasnt period.
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2 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
No idea, never seen one.
T4 and 5 are just a link.
T8 and 9 are -ve rails, one would likely be for the bell.
Four top pins could have been SAB battery? One side of top pins is T6 the other is via the 1W resistor to -ve
It's the era I'd expect tamper switches to be microswitches with flying leads from terminals.
It would be logical to have all the field wiring on the first few terminals and the rest for the bell internals.
Originally i thought those solder joints had something to do with the battery but i couldn't think how it would. One side seems to go to the large resistor which is connected to the - VE. So i thought maby the solder joints is where the cover and rear tamper would go, then any additional tamper switches would go in T5 and T6 as T5 is shared with T4 and T6 goes to those pins.
As for T9 and 10, they had a link between them. Fell off though as the copper was weak.
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Hello, was wondering if anyone could tell me about this sab module? Found it in an SSW bell box; I've figured out most of the connections but there are still some that elude me.
This is what I've got so far
T1 - 0v
T2 - 12v
T3 - Positive trigger
T4 - Tamper return?
T5/T6 - Extra tamper?
T7/T8 - Bell
T9/T10 - Polarity link for tamp return?
T11/T12 - Battery enable
There's also 4 solder joints above where the battery was once fitted - is that where the tamper switches go?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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19 minutes ago, PeterJames said:
did you try Racall Countess or DA monitor 6 manuals?
Do you have a link to these manuals?
Cant find them online.
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16 minutes ago, PeterJames said:
did you try Racall Countess or DA monitor 6 manuals?
No, i will give them a try though. Are they similar im guessing?
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Does any one have a user and engineer manual for a Chubb CA67?
I tried the active 5 manuals but turns out the CA67 panels are programmed differently.
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On 15/07/2019 at 21:13, datadiffusion said:
So you might have noticed back in the day a few Telecom Security boxes, the earlier ones of which had the famous post-81 British Telecom logo on.
https://burglaralarmbritain.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/telecom-security-southwark/
It seems they were bought by Modern Alarms but also seemed to be still around for a short time at least, by the time Modern themselves were rolled into ADT.
By the end they appeared to be using the same Galaxy systems as ADT, but with Telecom branding on the RKPs and the 'famous' coloured buttons for Police, Fire and Medical.
But what I've got hold of is one of the earlier, very definately not-available-in-shops Telecom alarms, brand new in it's box.
Note the BT logo but only on the inside. Very US looking, and would have had an external PSU and a keylock in the states too. However the
plug, rather than spur, connection is also very 'BT'. For some reason I'm assuming that these panels were never actually BS compliant, despite the
inferred police dispatch? Or did BT 'misuse' their ability to access 999 direct? It's certainly the only monitoring co. I've ever come across that will
call you an ambulance, other than specialist medical (non-security) monitoring? Note it can do up to 24 zones via expanders back when this was unheard of for
most panels especially a domestic aimed system.
This solves the 'mystery' of the Scantronic Telecom keypads being sold on eBay, I don't know what DSS stands for but I know that
Arrowhead* (see below) was a US company bought up by Scantronic Holdings in the early 90s. It went as badly as you can imagine and is pretty much
how Scanny fell into the hands of US buyers (Cooper) the first time round with Arrowhead (seemingly partially rebranded to Scantronic by then)
being essentially written off for pennies.
In fact, take a look at the panel closely and you'll see a Scan Tronic label on one of the ICs. I'm impressed by that Siemens CPU too.
I don;t have a keyboard but this little bundle came with something I've never seen before on ebay - an Arrowhead programming keyboard!
It's just like the eBay link above, but with 3 LEDs not two, and 3 extra wires and a plug.
Unfortunately, there is no-where to plug it onto this unit.
So, for now the adventure stops.
Were these programmed remotely (as it was a monitored-only service) or only via the remote? I suppose it could have been done via a 2 digit RKP, after all the 9800 is.
Does anyone know anything about these....?
How large is that panel? I should be getting a telecom security box soon and if the panel isn't too large then i might look for one on ebay.
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does anyone know which screw terminal is the tamper return?
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Just now, Logan said:
I seen one of these before
It was a dark brown (almost black colour)
Ive seen something like that before.
It was painted over though.
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Does anyone know the original colour of a Combat Alarms box?
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20 hours ago, al-yeti said:
Why you scared to how PCB pic?
You rip this off a shop?
Well its got surface mount components on it so obviously 2000s but i wasnt too sure wether it was early or late 2000s.
I should have been more specific.
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21 hours ago, Logan said:
Its from around 1999 to 2007. Newer ones have LED strobes
Thanks very much, its got a green LED but its dim to be a comfort.
Tried putting two more green LEDs in the lens put still too dim.
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18 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:
Opening it up will be a good clue!
Date on it is f***ked.
Looks a bit of rain water got in and ruin the date.
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Anyone know how old these sounders are?
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3 hours ago, datadiffusion said:
Yep, hurry, only 997 downloads left!
997 downloads of that catalogue?
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7 hours ago, MrHappy said:
Dunno, I've never heard of radiovisor
lol
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14 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
I'd assume a white metal panel with a keyswitch
Pretty standard by the sound of it
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11 minutes ago, Nova-Security said:
Only think i have seen/used by Radiovisor was IR beams
https://www.gjd.co.uk/media-centre/news/gjd-acquires-radiovisor
I think they used to use IR beams with their alarms.
Modern Alarms Traffic Light Panel
in Vintage For Sale, Items Wanted, auction links
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Hi, bit of a long shot as these panels are very old and most are probably skipped; but does anyone still have a modern automatic alarms traffic light panel? And are willing to sell it?
It's a hammered silver panel with a sidleen barrel key switch and its distinctive red, yellow and green lamps fitted to the top of the unit.