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  1. I consider myself lucky, I managed to get a Fully EITB / Entra Apprintership, C&G, ONC,HNC in a big electronics company all funded. Very few business do this today or even have the setup to support it. The factory I started in done all its manufacturing, Cables, Looms, PCB's, Metal Punching, bending, powder painting, Assembly, Test, Field Service and repair. As an apprentice, you worked in every department and tried everything for at least one month. Took 4 Year to complete. You will struggle to find a company to stay with for 4 year today. Then come in the Bean counters and the Six Sigma Lean team and there outsourcing. Who convince management that outsourcing would save ££££. Then China become accessible and killed most of the UK SME's But the UK is now in big trouble, because companies are having big issues with China and China's economy is declining, factories will be going bust and UK business will be hung to dry. So what is the UK doing, simple - Give every kid a Arduino and Raspberry Pie and all is will be good !!! I had a student a couple of years ago(16), and there electronics was all done in Workbench, No Making PCB's, No Soldering, No hands on! (Because Elf & Safety and Budget) We should make kids build there mobile phone if they want one, that would motivate them...(Maybe not as there first project !!) ;-)
  2. Have you trying a really BIG Push Button to exit sign, alternative, what about a PIR on Exit. This bring me on to a (I think) funny and true story. A thief attempted to access a factory late at night, he slipped in while someone was exiting. (Bad I know..) But there was a second set of security doors, Believing he was trapped in the stairwell and in frustration, he starts kicking the doors and punching the windows in the doors. On Drugs, the guy manages to punch out a foot square wire reinforced fire window, and cut an artery in the process. A night worker passes by and see the broken window, looks through and sees the guy in a pool of blood in the stairs and calls 999. The guy did live to be charged. He tried to claim he come in looking for the Toilet and become trapped. Needless to say, he was known to police. But only because he did was to high to realised he needed to "Push the button to Exit" or Break the GBU !!
  3. 25 Years ago C&G 224 in Electronic Service was what every apprentice when on, the coarse was always fully subscribed. It seems 224 has long gone. I am not sure what the equivalent is today, It seems most colleges have dropped electronics for Programming and Web design. So we will have a country of Software Nerds, but no Electronics Engineers to develop the hardware. al-yeti, "It's simple case of getting your wiring right and resistors in the correct place " - 40 Posts on, Hopefully, the next one will be "It Works!"
  4. I have always striped with side cutters. (Lindstrom 8141) But you need to control the nip much more carefully or you will weaken the strands. For those who find precision stripping wire with cutters difficult and pulling strands in CCA, Then I highly recommend ST500 / ST550. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/miscellaneous/2550074952/ On terminal blocks, I was referring to the ones in panels, bells and detectors etc. Take Texecom, I do not know the reason why, but I am sure the designer was having a brain fart, at some point during the design. Most of the terminals are 45Deg, square box design, but the Bell Terminals are 90Deg. and have that metal fin, that is suppose to prevent the screw from damaging the wire, but once tightened, are a bar-stuard to retract and re-insert wires.(Without a paper clip). This is the same in the Pyronix Delta Bell, Put 90Deg Terminals right next to the plastic wall, come on Pyronix, 45Deg Terminals please. And while I am on product design, who put the Mains terminals on a Elite24Poly, right under the AUX/Zone terminals. (I suspect, Mr D. K. Head). There is plenty of space in the bottom left, for it to be safely out of the way. I know you supposed to pull the Isolator, but how many do? But it just IMO.
  5. You can not beat hands on, but it is important to know the fundamentals first, or you will blow stuff up. As Charlie6 said, you can hear the reeds click, but I am finding this more difficult as I am getting older! Last picture!, In keeping with charlie6 SOT, I have shown the RKP Z1 as a DP/EOL. You might also want is consider some courses like C&G 1853-02, C&G 2882, Its an Ideal time as the new term is just starting. I do not know your age, but 16-18 you should get 100% funding and 19-24 is 50%, Not sure on the costs, think it depends on location / facility. I am sure others on here can provide more information. Got to go, customer just bust a PIR putting up Coving. Hope this helps
  6. I have have one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6PCS-LED-Waterproof-5-5mm-10M-USB-Endoscope-Borescope-Tube-Inspection-Camera-/271956286475?hash=item3f51db9c0b The 90Deg, mirror is not much good, but the camera is not half bad for 8 quid. Its helped no end with dropping cables behind plaster board, looking in stud walls,looking under floor boards and fitting Flush Door contacts. Often, a 20mm hole in the floor or wall is sufficient to do keyhole cable routing. It would be nice to be able to steer the end, but you can kind of do this by rotating the cable. But for 8 quid, you can not expect too much. (Assuming you carry a laptop to use it on.) I am never without it. BTW: I always try and hide the cables to RKP, Front Door and Speaker on Domestic Installations. But it does take time. What do others do?
  7. While a little extra work, you can always install Virtualbox and XP on your windoze 7/8/10. If you are having compatibility issues.
  8. Due to the price of copper, we have CCA. I noticed quite a different between CQR and some unbranded CCA. Luck I only purchased 1 reel of the unbranded. See BS4737-3.30, there is a good write-up on CQR website. If you strip with wire cutters, be very careful, the strands are very easily damaged with little pressure. Also watch out when tightening in terminal blocks, it easy to shear off.
  9. I do not mean to be rude and I am trying to be helpful, Everyone has to learn. But your earlier comments confuse me? I would expect a Trainee Installation Engineer to have a some basic knowledge of electrical connections, switches and resistors in Parallel and Series. Also the ability to read the installation manuals. The Impact Plus Installation Manual is clear and will also answer your question on Contact Gap when used on a Ferrous Surface. The manual also details the magnet positions. The Elite Installation Manual P31, Details the wiring of EOL Circuits with 1 and 2 Alarm contacts. If this is your First Solo Project, what was you being shown when you was with somebody? Do you have any background in Electrics or Electronics? It sounds like you need a really 1-2-1 with your trainer. While its good to learn how to program via the Keypad. Get a Serial Cable and Wintex. There are just too many setting to configure by the RKP. For you own education, I urge you to RTFM. (I mean this in a nice way). Some poor engineer has spent there days writing it all for our benefit, for it not to be read.! (Believe me, Engineers hate doing it!) Having said all that, I am sure I am now in for a beasting.! I will repeat, you should really put the Shocks on different zones. As another member mentioned, you have 2 extra zones in the RKP. Remember you can run the zone(s) in the RKP back to the panel in the connecting cable, depending on the number of cores. So, if you run 8 Core to the RKP, 4 are for the RKP(Power and Data) and 4 for RKP Z1 and Z2. Assuming you are not using a pair for Speaker. (Some RKP also support Speaker) If you must wire the Reed and Shock on the same zone, I have attached the diagram. Hope this helps
  10. Dangle the bate and one is sure to bite.. "School of Thought" is that define in a Manual, Spec or Standard somewhere? The thing about "Schools of Thought" is different schools have different ideas. I do not disagree with the circuit being supervised and will detect a short on the circuit, but there is one supervised loop in the cable, so would suffice for this guys application, Adding 2 more resistors to the problem, is really going to confuse him!.
  11. It should look like the attach drawing. Assuming you use a separate Zone for the shock. (Recommended) I have also included the PIR Wiring. Do not forget to attach ALL Covers before testing. I am sure someone will create a debate over used using NC and not DP/EOL for the Shock Circuit, but I do not want to complicate it any more at the moment. Hope this helps
  12. AS per Simlec and my point 4. I would also propose you wire the shock and Reed in different zones.
  13. 1. Are you a DIY Installer? 2. Do you have Wintex and a Serial Cable or are you using the RKP to Program? 3. Have you checked the Door Contact Wiring and ensured the EOL Resistor are correctly connected or used a contact with EOL Risistor built in. 4. Have you check the alignment of the contact and magnet.
  14. Also, remember, its possible to Lockout the UDL after 3 wrong attempts, you need to wait the timeout or use a Valid User Code on the RKP to reset. I suspect, getting in a muddle with the setups will trigger this. While I am a big fan of: "If it works don't fix it!" Q. How good is the current program? Q. Did you® company programming the Premier? Its surprising what you find during reprogramming!
  15. Assuming your BT Home Hub is with BT, you did not say what version? BT Home service do not provide a Static IPs. But the Home Hub should support NOiP, NOIP is free and usual works quite well. In the long term, its worth trying to talk the client to use a provider that can provide a Static IP. The rules in the Router are usually; Range based. i.e. From Port - To Port. So it is possible that you are forwarding ports 80 to 7050 in the DVR. This will cause issues if the client needs a port between this range, forwarding to another machine. So Forward: From 80:To 80 & From 7050:To 7050 Personally, I would not use Port 80 in the WAN side. I would remap it to something else like 81. 80 is the Default Web Port and frequently Port scanned and clawled. But, do not start remapping until the basics are working. Also, Fix the IP of the DVR, unless you can access completely by Host Name when local. Or the user will lose local connection after his Route / DVR gets Power Cycled / Reset.
  16. Sorry if this sounds like sucking eggs, but are you sure you have not confused the setup of the Panel Details in Wintex. Its really easy to do. Selected Premier88 for the old system and Elite88 for the new. Also select the correct firmware version for EACH panel. If you have this wrong, Wintex usual reports "Incorrect UDL Password". I believe on a new install of an Elite, you can directly connect using the UDL USB using the default PW. Once you change the engineer PW, the default UDL PW will no longer work, unless you set a new UDL PW. I can not remember its exact default behavior, but it used to trip me up.
  17. The router will reserve the IP Address for the period of the lease time. Some route will let you set the lease time, but its normal between 1 to 3 days. But could be hours. You can see the lease time on a PC by typing: ipconfig /all under the CMD prompt. Look for Lease Expires If this reserved it forever, it would not the Dynamic. And eventual, all the IP will be used up.
  18. #SentryAlertSystems Reading your post again, have you allowed the NVR to obtain an IP by DHCP and then Hardcoded that address as STATIC in the NVR? This is a complete NO.NO.. And will cause Hell. Address allocated by DHCP come from a DHCP pool, this is managed by the router. Once you switch the NVR to Static, the DHCP will re-allocate this IP to the next device needing an address by DHCP. Now you have two devices with the same IP address. And this with most definitely caused APR problems. When a systems needs to find a device for the first time, it sends a 'whois' broadcast, both devices will respond with there MAC. the PC only has space for one MAC. You must allocate a Static IP from outside of the DHCP Pool. This will be a setting in the router with the DHCP Start Address and Size. So if it starts at 192.168.1.50 and size of 50, use an address below 192.168.1.50 or above 192.168.1.100. i.e. 192.168.1.49 or 192.168.1.101. Please let me know if this helps?
  19. It is possible under certain conditions. Without going into a fully 802.11 explanation, Devices on a network do not actually communicate using the IP Address, The IP is linked to the MAC address of the device using APR Tables. If the APR and IP have got out of sync, then it will not work. It is possible to manually assign an IP to an MAC. You can see the ARP Table by typing: "ARP -a" at the CMD prompt. some router will show you the ARP table in the GUI, most will display address if it has access by Telnet or SSH. It sound like the problem is between PC and NVR, so check the PC ARP table against the MAC set in the NVR. The simplest thing to do is flush the APR Cache using: "netsh interface ip delete arpcache" in an elevated CMD prompt. This will not damage anything, it just causes the cache to rebuild. Hope this help.
  20. I would agree the Technicolor TG582n is no Draytek, but I find it quite a capable router. Although boxes I have used are supplied by plusnet. I suspect the problem is more to do with the ISP's messing with the core Firmware to Dumb it down for the general user. So I can not to speak for TalkTalk Branded units. TG582n have Telnet Port, this can be used to configure a load of stuff that you can not do in the web interface. Search TG582n Telnet Advanced Settings. Also, a number of Port Forwarding issues are down to the user not understanding all the steps to configure the router and end point. It is also possible to reflash most TG582n with stock code. But it is not for the Avg. IT Expert!. And not the kind of thing you can do to customers property. DHCP is a powerfull tool, it ensures the end point is correctly configured with more than just the IP Address. So it is better to set a Static DHCP in the router and linking the IP to the MAC. In a TC you can do this via Telnet: >>dhcp server lease add clientid=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx pool=LAN_private addr=192.168.1.x leasetime=0 >>saveall If you want the ultimate of configurable routes and have £200 spare, get a Draytek,. But this are not for the Avg. Joe. Hope this helps someone
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