matthew.brough

Honeywell documentation says 24 devices, hence 3 rio addresses. You had issues with >16?

Yes, just wire it as a standard rio and when you exit engineers it will say x modules added. Rf portal can take up to 3 rio addresses depending how you set it up in the programming.

4 digits

Lol

I thought it a bit strange having such a big number. No idea why it is so.

000001 - 999999

Just for clarity Aritech ATS does use seed codes, Aritech CD does not.

Totally agree. I know webway use a few in their stuff rather than recreate something that already existed.

Sorry it is. I meant a keypad on the system not a keypad plugged onto the portal.

Yes, RF portal is done via the keypads. 6.5

It's easy enough on a GD. Each RF portal is seen as RIO's and you can tell it how many rio addresses you want to take up. It's a case of putting the panel into learn and tampering the device and all is well. Program everything else as a normal zone.

He gets moody occasionally.

Absolutely

You can't choose the code you quote to the arc, the remote reset unit decides that but most seasoned end users are clued up on the things to say to get a remote reset so you could generate some alarms, call the arc and get the resets for 'valid' reasons and you would have enough code and anticodes to do your maths.

Indeed it does. All return anticode 18003

I was referring to the list of manufacturers cg that you did where texecom was on the top end. What I found interesting is the order you put the manufacturers in based on the tests you had done is the same order thereabouts that I'd have expected most experienced engineers to write without any of your knowledge just based on gut feel from having to support the products in the wild.

Good question, but technistore are using it to imply their stuff is very secure. Not at all.

You make a good point, technistore brag on their website of military grade encryption. If the technistore decoder is military grade and it took you 5 mins to work it out, doesn't say much for military grade! I can see that. Hopefully cg will have the time to take a look at all the common gear we use. Especially signalling devices. (Not sure if I mentioned before I'm looking forward to that?)

I've no doubt you check your activation reports, I'm sure 90% of the industry doesn't bother. The worry for me is the fact you could reset a tamper with remote reset so someone could have a tinker with the system (as you say a lot on Redcare still and other pin driven signalling) so you could tamper the panel, mess around with a few wires and system not talking. Fail to operate. That's my concern more with customers having access to rr.

The seed codes are reasonably common knowledge. I think most engineers know a few just by where they have worked and engineers they know in other companies. If cg had bad intentions, he could simply write a list of them and generate a little web page for customers to reset their own alarms and the fact he can is the frightening bit, exposing a system that isn't very secure which I believe was the whole point of his blog in the first place. We have all seen websites appear to assist the consumer getting around things such as sayno20870 etc, why should we be immune from customers trying to save a few quid and reset their own alarms and avoid the engineer call out fee? We should have a better system that stops them being able to.

Such as?

It's our duty to assist him with his work. Adrian is a good example. From what cg says their radio kit is a 1st class job, secure and all round a great product. Compared with other kit that is the polar opposite but no one knows the difference. By cg trying to hack Adrian's product and not being able to is a huge selling point for Texecom. If I were texecom, I'd point people towards the blog. I can't wait until signalling products are done as finally he will reveal to the world, with evidence that all is not the same. If all the kit the industry used was as good as the alarm companies tell the end user it is, cgs work wouldn't worry anyone. The only reason people are nervous is he is starting to expose the truth about some of the sub standard kit in use. I am sat with every confidence that the equipment we use will stand up 100% to any test and I'm happy to assist him with his investigations so that the faith I've placed in Aritech and webway is based on some hard facts.

+1

Especially the signalling. Lead the way