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  1. 2 hours ago, Chris Nasah said:

    Am not sure I thought I might have deleted it with all the errors.

     

    it seems non of my sensors upstairs are working when I do walk test.  Wondering if they ever worked now as it seems the max I have is 12 zones which are already in use.  

     

    I guess the installer did not wire them up which was installed in 2011. 

     

    If the RIO (Remote Input/Output) module had dissapeared from the bus, then the panel will tamper and inform that the module is missing. Only an engineer would be given to delete the RIO (using the * key).  If you completely power cycled the system, then this may also have removed the non-present RIO. 

     

    Since there are 12 zones on-board, the other 8 zones (upstairs) will be connected to a single RIO, giving the full 20 zones that the panel is capable of. Only someone with the engineer code will be able to re-enumerate the external RIO back onto the bus.

     

     

  2. I tried changing the address, but the menu just shows the address allowing it to be disabled or enabled, not changed. If you disable, it still consumes the address and the hard wired Rio cannot enumerate on the bus.

     

    At least if you add in the order I mentioned, then it will work.

     

    I'm not sure why alpha isn't working for you. Did you power cycle the portal after changing the jumpers? I can add devices in alpha and V2. The serial number of the IR8 is different under each protocol. I was using a V1.08 portal, so will try a V3 when I get a minute.

  3. 5 hours ago, GalaxyGuy said:

    I was using the range comparison chart, so the documents seem to conflict.

    http://www.security.honeywell.com/uk/documents/HSC-Flex-01-EN(0711)PC-C.pdf

     

    The older G2 series used to allow for mapping wireless across all zones, but my understanding was that the Dimension and Flex implementations were different. I last checked that with older firmware, but haven't tried again on the most recent.

     

     

     

     

     

    Okay, since the documentation isn't clear on this,  here's my test result from an FX20 panel when adding a RIO and C079 RF Portal.

     

    First, you need to set the RIO address selector to 2, then connect and configure onto the Flex bus with menu 72.  The zones are 1021 to 1028.

    Then, add the C079 to the bus and address it using menu 72.  The address dial doesn't matter much here unless you have more than one portal to attach.  My test was set to address 0.

    The C079 will try to configure its virtual RIO to addess 102, but cannot, as it's already used. It cannot shift up one as the FX20 only allows 20 zones and the onboard cannot be disabled. So, the virtual RIO sits dormant.

     

    The bit that surprised me now is that the RF zones can now be mapped over the existing 20 zones anywhere, so you now have 20 flexible hard wired (8 outside the panel if you so wish) zones which can be converted into wireless.

     

    If you add the RF Portal first, then it will snatch the RIO address 102 (even when you disable in menu 51.60) and the hard wired RIO will not configure onto the bus.

     

    I hope that this clears up the operation - it's helped me to understand why I had to wrestle with this previously.

     

    This panel was version 3.37 for the record.

     

    GG.

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  4. 4 minutes ago, Dklemm said:

    No v2 didn't work either, well the PIR (IR8M) didn't.  I haven't tried the fob (TCC800M) as its a little more fiddly with swap over.  Obviously I was in the correct menu for each device.

     

    I didn't try "Russia" jumper, just the protocol jumper.  I also tried alpha to v2 and via versa just in case reading the switching wrong, but I didn't get any RX on the portal in these modes as expected.

     

    alpha > alpha - RX flashes rapidly 3 times, no TX flashes.. 

    v2 > v2 - No RX/TX 

    alpha > v2 - No RX/TX - as expected. 

    v2 > alpha - No RX/TX - as expected. 

     

    Don't know if it makes a difference but the RF version is v3.00 and the FX020 is v3.37.  I don't have any software or firmware update them anyway.

     

    Leave the portal at alpha and V2. Jumper 1 closed. Ensure that you power cycle the portal.

     

    What is menu 51.60 showing as the portal address ?

     

    Are you saying that when you press the * learn on the zone and set the IR8M to V2 and then add the battery, that the serial number doesn't populate ?  Remember that the newer detectors have two tamper switches, so if pressing the front tamper with the lid off, then you need to have the sensor in its back wall plate to close the other tamper as they're fitted in series.

     

     

    On 14/06/2017 at 0:10 AM, Dklemm said:

    Also the maximum wireless zones is 20 on the FLEX020 so the wireless must override be able to override the wired zone with its virtual address.

     

    No, that's not correct. The FX20 only supports one virtual RIO, so 8 wireless zones.  If you add the portal on its own, the virtual RIO will be added at the next available address: 102.  So that's 100 and 101 for the on-board and 102 for the wireless.

     

    Giving zones:

    1001:1004 (Onboard terminals)

    1011:1018 (Onboard terminals)

    1021:1028 (Wireless)

     

    What I needed to check is that when you add the external RIO at address 2, then add the RF portal and disable the virtual RIO at menu 51.60, do the remote controls still work.

     

     

     

  5. One thing to note for Apple based device push notifications is that when your device is not connected to an IP network and multiple events are sent to the device, then only the last event sent will be picked up by the phone.  There doesn't seem to be any reliable way to determine if an event has been received by the phone, as iOS determines if there is enough power to signal push notification delivery to the installed app in order for the app to make a callback to any service platform.

     

    This is probably the reason that many push notifications are missed with iPhones.

     

    The iOS service is only intended to signal the app that some status has changed and the app should connect and retrieve events.

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