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Hi I have sent a reply on texecom forum

Rob Wish i had done more fire in recent years seems to be a shortage of engineers or some huge fire projects under way i can 1st fix ok but totaly rusty on the panels

Hi joe i have seen this on some of my recent interviews aswell it apears we have a new brand of chancers in the trade now who want extra staff but do not want to provide any job security and at no cost to them it is like self employed - sub contract but less per hour

yes phoned all the larger companies and most of the smaller one had a few interviews and some 2nd interviews had several strange offers like will i work for cash in hand [no] or do i want to fit 2 or 3 visonic kit per day most jobs are for newbies and poorly paid i have seen the same adds repeated many times but several good prospects still ongoing

tryied to apply for job today add does not give a company name email cv only no phone number think about this what if add read send bank details and pin number to an unknown email address i think i will pass on this one

The only problem with renting systems to end users on a fixed term contract is the initial capital outlay for the original install cost is not high enough to apeal to factoring company [hp'] , to small a return on an unsecured loan. Even if you roll the yearly charges in The national companies all capilalise the equipment over the contract period 3 to 7 years [most of which they actualy manufacture] think back even bt could not make this model profitable.[telecom security] Remember all the old company names that no longer trade or have been taken over Worked for multi national that bought many alarm companies because the yearly income looked so good on paper they sold out in the end Think about visiting the bank the manager rolling on the floor with tears rolling down his cheeks saying you want to borrow how much the monthly repayments are x and your profit is only y It is ok to put the yearly monitering and maint charge on direct debit but your contract needs to be cast iron this model works for most small to medium companies and charge for the install

a 2.5 amp current will end up ok, think about a car battery this will be like leaving side lights on day and night this will be a constant current drain is not like the max current required to start car batt's are sold in starting amp requirement on a cold day ie amps output for a very short period. leisure batt's are used for caravan and boat lights etc lower current for a longer period this worked for a long weekend ok it needs some form of trickle charge to try and stop the volt drop as i said in previous post used solar panel

tried this used large 2 +12 volt marine /lorry battery and a solar panel to trickle charge on fire damaged site worked ok until some idiot tried to boost charge with a 12 volt generator everything smoked and died

I have not just worked in the trade as an enginneer worked as sales surveyor for a national ,and on a small company in a corner shop that got very large and ended up with the largest showroom /shop in london with the only boss ,who every day used to wear a denim shirt and jeans and sweep the floor and when we went out on a survey we had to take a van and not wear a shirt and tie it worked and every job had to be connected to cs. until he retired sold up i still choose to be an enginneer. my last company i fiitted 100 to 150 jobs every year for the last 16 years again every job has a connection right up until late last year you cannot stop other people wanting to slow down retire why is it all job adds want cv by email but still do not give their company name or if they are even approved what is the quote I regret nothing { i am still learning something new every day} so i am looking for work in the london essex borders day or weekly rates

untill the plan fails yes at this point i think it would be loverly to be employed and get holiday pay and a pension but i was under the impression i had been

The national company model of sell the system for cost or a loss if it is near the end of the month then rub your hand with glee at the montly charge and the high call out charge it still works, only if they install hundreds of systems per month and the backers have deep pockets and think how much that costs and the blind faith it needs small companies have to sell the personal service but remember it takes a lot of £50 pounds clear profit after all costs to get rich and i can think of several who did

yes i am back to self employed again have always kept the safety net , but choose not to fit my own systems. over the years even right back to the lander's in tottenham days mid 80s it seemed every one wanted to be the boss. it always payes to have a back up plan

I AM NOT HAVING A GO if somone wants to fit wirless house alarms thats great i am pointng out that if you only earn a small profit from each job thats great but in the end someone will do it for cost + £50 POUNDS in the end everybody has a choice the recurring revenue point is this how lots of companies survive

done that and lost the t shirt , happy to be a worker bee now let somebody else have the stress and to just work for day rate these are my observations over the years and working with several people who got very rich by takeovers and cutting costs and to reach the magic number of connections so they can sit back and not have to chase every job just to pay the wages

yes wireless works if the detectors are 2 way radio and you can fit redcare as in texecom who would risk a digi now days, but it is not cheap . talking of a large company and extra works i recently removed a system on a double shop that did not have enough detectors fitted to confirm an activation remember recurring revenue is king and do not forget the multi year maint contract and the baliffs if they want to break the contract early and to put it in the shop owner name as well

in the past year installed about 70 shops all grade2 or grade 3 redcare secure or redcare gsm all on texeccom premir ellite 48 kits and two large distibution centres one on a 168 other on 640 only job hunting because existing company has enough connections to wind down and think of semi retirement and pass on to his son

over the years worked on most panels current use texecom premier elite eaton menvier old and new scantronic old and new

The london area is strange at this time it is feast or famine . yes looking for commercial install work have own van and tools

All this is ok. but if there is fire in the building and it is caused by an electrical fault and you are the last person to have checked the electrics and you do not have the regs and the building suffers loss try and see if your insurance will pay out

Hi it has been years since my last post on this forum After many years in the trade working in London &Essex. Keeping my head down and installing away [ 16 years with my current company 39 total ], I have put my head above the wall to find a totaly differant brave new world I need to find a job so i found my contacts book went through the pages only to find most have sold up and retired to spain the numbers dissconnected or i am sorry to say dead Ok lets try looking on line. My findings are We no longer install security systems we fit them ,and most domestic alarms have no wires [ is this magic] this was explained to me by employment agency staff who all wish to offer me the same hose bashing job. or the well known national company who cannot keep staff. The main question asked is why do you still wish to install [sorry fit] alarms. The reply is easy i still enjoy the job and want/need to work The search continues thanks Peter

Hi what is wrong with our trade, why is it last man to quote for a system commercial or domestic, always want's to beat the cheapest price and fit the cheapest wire free system they can buy bells only or speach dialer. Only for the customer to find out the sytem does not meet insurance requirement's or extra works are required and do not start me off with the hidden call out charges This hurt's all of the industry who install grade 2 or 3 sytems with a central station connection I have been installing security systems for many years, [38 years i had not realised it was that long until i had to fill out my employmant history recently] . remember you install a system you fit one way radio junk thanks peter