January 24, 200521 yr comment_38045 Hi there, I wonder if some of the resident experts could help me out here. I have a Premier panel installed with zone expander, dialer etc. and it all works lovely. I want to hook my shed into the system using a wireless link from Keystone (the K600 receiver) - hardwiring isn't an option for me with the shed at the minute. The receiver can be configured to output either a positive or a negative. To hook it up to a zone on my Premier panel, do I therefore need to power a relay, perhaps using 12v(+) from the panel and then use the Negative Output from the receiver to switch the relay which in turn will be connected to an alarm zone ? Sorry if it's a thick question ! Podge. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 24, 200521 yr comment_38046 Easiest way is to connect the O/P of the K600 to the right hand terminal of the zone wiring, (assuming it's set for double pole wiring). Set the output of the K600 to -ve. The K600 needs to be fed from the same supply as the Premier, or have the -ve's commoned. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-38046 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 24, 200521 yr comment_38047 Stuart Thanks for the quick reply. It is double pole wiring. Am I right in saying that I just connect the right hand zone terminal and that's it ? No left hand connection at all ? I'm using the same supply for the K600 as the premier Thanks again Podge Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-38047 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 24, 200521 yr comment_38048 We use the scannie ones with built in relays but if not then the relay would be best, but other methods do work as explained. Why double pole? Edited January 24, 200521 yr by kipper PG Security Systems Somerset SSAIB Certificate of Merit Installers. www.pgsecurity.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-38048 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 24, 200521 yr comment_38052 Am I right in saying that I just connect the right hand zone terminal and that's it ? No left hand connection at all ? 38047[/snapback] Correct. The left hand is the zone feed and the right hand is the return. The feed is coming from the supply terminals into the K600 (that's why you need the common supply rail) so you only need to connect the return. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-38052 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
January 28, 200521 yr comment_38561 whats this shed like?if its a standard wooden ramshackle job it could be false alarm city through damp wildlife etc Trade Member Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-38561 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200521 yr comment_39951 Hi Guys I'm still having problems with this. Stuart, I connected to the right hand alarm terminal as you said. It didn't produce a result. I'm happy the wireless contacts are okay and trained - likewise I am happy that they are putting out -ve when activated. As it's double pole wiring, should I leave the left hand alarm terminal open or do I need to do something with it ? Also, regarding the tamper circuit - presumably I need to link out with a 1k res and that's it ? Thanks Podge Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-39951 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200521 yr comment_39953 Hi GuysI'm still having problems with this. Stuart, I connected to the right hand alarm terminal as you said. It didn't produce a result. I'm happy the wireless contacts are okay and trained - likewise I am happy that they are putting out -ve when activated. As it's double pole wiring, should I leave the left hand alarm terminal open or do I need to do something with it ? Also, regarding the tamper circuit - presumably I need to link out with a 1k res and that's it ? Thanks Podge 39951[/snapback] I think that programming the zone as normally closed (0) and leaving the left hand terminal empty, should work. If you don't know......ask. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-39953 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200521 yr comment_39976 Just link out the tamper with a bit of wire, no resistor, if its double pole. The zone terminal furthest from the tampers leave unconnected and 0v should be APPLIED to the next zone terminal for the zone to read Secure. 0v removed causes the zone to activate. If you cant configure it for 0v removed use the 0v applied to open a relay. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-39976 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 15, 200521 yr comment_40530 Hi there ...and thanks to all who offered opinions and helped. I finally sorted it out last night using a relay so particular thanks to Breff for the advice. As it wasnt possible to configure the receiver for 0v Removed, the 0v Applied is opening a relay as suggested. Thanks Podge Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4881-expert-help-needed-please/#findComment-40530 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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