May 9, 200818 yr comment_196977 Hello, I'm just in the process of selecting some suitable PIR's for our install. I've been reading up and will probably be looking at the texecom range. I understand the idea being Dual Tec's - but not so sure about the QUADs. As I understand, the Dual Tec's use both microwave and PIR to detect movement - should one of the two trigger, no alarm will sound - should both detect then alarm will sound. However, could someone provide a summary of QUADs and when/why they would be installed over standard PIRs? The Texecom Prestige Quad is only a few quid more than the bog standard Prestige Compact IR but the Dual's are almost double. Also, these mirrored optics - more expensive than the QUADs but cheaper than the Dualtecs - what's the benefit of them? Thanks! Alex Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr Author comment_196978 P.S. I understand that both the 4 "box" sextions need to be activated before the alarm sounds but texecom advertise this for "harsh" env. yet some forum threads here use it as standard? I don't quite understand that! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196978 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_196986 P.S. I understand that both the 4 "box" sextions need to be activated before the alarm sounds but texecom advertise this for "harsh" env. yet some forum threads here use it as standard?I don't quite understand that! i use quads as standard, less chance of false alarms. Not that much to think about, you have the right idea. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196986 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_196987 Hi, Basically all movement detectors work on the same principle-they see movement of some description. PIR's Should theoretically see heat movement or a change in heat distribution-but all PIR's are not equal. Cheaper PIR's can react to certain movements that should be regarded as inoffensive-such as a curtain moving or a piece of paper dropping off a notice board-the better devices will discriminate between the two and provide more security against false alarms. At the higher end as you have said combined infra red/microwave will meet the criteria but are more expensive. A cheap PIR may well just send a beam out at and look for movement-a quad sends numerous beams out looking for movement and ascertaining wheather that movement should be regarded as a intruder situation. This is a classic example of why the regs are being implemented/updated-The aim especially with monitored or policed systems is to reduce false alarms-and thus unwarranted police response whilst they could be at a more serious crime scene. Obviously the better a detector is at doing it's job the more people will trust it for what it's supposed to do!!. But the same applies for the domestic bells only system as well-you want to know that if it's gone off-It's gone off for a legitamate reason!. Richard. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196987 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_196988 Just a further note though-as per alterEGO-I always specify quad PIR's on all my quotes as a matter of course as well. Regards. Richard. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196988 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_196990 A cheap PIR may well just send a beam out at and look for movement-a quad sends numerous beams out looking for movement and ascertaining wheather that movement should be regarded as a intruder situation. WTF? passive infra red De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da. De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196990 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_196991 WTF? passive infra red Well we knew what he meant didn't we? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196991 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_196997 i use quads as standard as well Kevin Scott. Owner of KK Alarms...... Installation .. Service .. Repair ...... Thoughout.. Northumberland and North Tyneside ..... Tel:01670 361948 (call diverted after 15 seconds) or 07947444114 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-196997 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr Author comment_197003 thanks for the replies - i'll buy them 4 beam ones hehe so quads minimum then - any good manufacturers then? or is the texecom prestige a sure bet? *beam me up scotty* //gets my coat Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-197003 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 9, 200818 yr comment_197004 thanks for the replies - i'll buy them 4 beam ones heheso quads minimum then - any good manufacturers then? or is the texecom prestige a sure bet? *beam me up scotty* //gets my coat In my opinion, and it is only an opinion, the choice of manufacturer is often quite personal. People tend to have their own favourites. Personnally I like Optex detectors but have fitted loads of Texecom PIRs (but not quads) and have found them to be as reliable as any other. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23161-pir-choice/#findComment-197004 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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