Specialist Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 There's two systems which spring to my mind when reading about these experiences. One is a guy in his eighties. I've known him a few years, and it seems he was visited a while back by a sales guy who convinced him he needed a security system. He ended up paying installments of Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 its sad when you hear of these situations, im in no way an engineer and have mananged to install a pretty good system with no faults (bar line fail, due to no telephone line atm) but it works and works well. my panel is now neat and tidy, a little excess cable under the upstairs floor but left incase i damage any cable doing decorating work... The lad thats fitted that should be sued... ! a disgrace to himself, hate people that pray on the elderly... really isnt on. Hope you can sort it all for them without too much of a problem mate and not too much cost I will probably get slated for this but what the heck, just because you are a DIYer does not mean you cant install a perfectly adequate domestic system, but as your reply shows, you have the intelligence to realise that this doesn't make you a security engineer. Just to let you know I have spoken to the old ladies family today and they told me to rip the old rubbish out and fit a proper system for her, they will foot the bill. They are also going to a solicitor about this and will try to recoup some of her money. Regs:Andy. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerabloke Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 make sure you take pictures first then!!!! Eucam Security Systems 0845 4630 746 www.eucam.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 apparently magpye and the one I`ve got on ignore are going to be the court appointed "expert witnesss`" they will shut up and listen one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ltr16valve Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I will probably get slated for this but what the heck, just because you are a DIYer does not mean you cant install a perfectly adequate domestic system, but as your reply shows, you have the intelligence to realise that this doesn't make you a security engineer. Just to let you know I have spoken to the old ladies family today and they told me to rip the old rubbish out and fit a proper system for her, they will foot the bill. They are also going to a solicitor about this and will try to recoup some of her money. Regs:Andy. mate pleasing words to my ears, id actually love to install alarms, cctv and access control as a living but being nearly 26 with 3 children i cant afford to be a apprentice Im at college at the moment doing a course to get me into uni next year to train as a paramedic Im pleased that the family have seen that ur trying to help, an that they have agreed to have it sorted all good. Deffo get pictures and make sure there all time/date stamped mate.. or aint valid HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 mate pleasing words to my ears, id actually love to install alarms, cctv and access control as a living but being nearly 26 with 3 children i cant afford to be a apprentice Im at college at the moment doing a course to get me into uni next year to train as a paramedic Im pleased that the family have seen that ur trying to help, an that they have agreed to have it sorted all good. Deffo get pictures and make sure there all time/date stamped mate.. or aint valid HTH no digital pictures mind, so no phone ones either but your pissing in the wind if theres no original paperwork - see fitting a bad system isnt a criminal offence ( YET ) as long as you dont claim compliance and there hasnt been a substansive lose for them to claim against (no one died there because of the alarm - did they?) the only dodgy ground legally is the missing earth but proving someone fitted it ? impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 mate pleasing words to my ears, id actually love to install alarms, cctv and access control as a living but being nearly 26 with 3 children i cant afford to be a apprentice Im at college at the moment doing a course to get me into uni next year to train as a paramedic Im pleased that the family have seen that ur trying to help, an that they have agreed to have it sorted all good. Deffo get pictures and make sure there all time/date stamped mate.. or aint valid HTH Your still young yet mate so there's still time. But being a Paramedic is a more than worthy occupation & you have my greatest respect, I hope you do well. It is not something I could ever see myself doing as having to deal with sick & injured kids would be too much to stomache. Regs: Andy. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 no digital pictures mind, so no phone ones either but your pissing in the wind if theres no original paperwork - see fitting a bad system isnt a criminal offence ( YET ) as long as you dont claim compliance and there hasnt been a substansive lose for them to claim against (no one died there because of the alarm - did they?)the only dodgy ground legally is the missing earth but proving someone fitted it ? impossible Totally agree on all points mate and no, No paperwork as it apparently got lost in the post ( Convenient that) & fortunately no one was killed or injured. (Spose me having a baby when i saw the mess doesn't count). As for picks they wont need them as they prefer to remonstrate with him personally. Regs:Andy. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I will probably get slated for this but what the heck, just because you are a DIYer does not mean you cant install a perfectly adequate domestic system, but as your reply shows, you have the intelligence to realise that this doesn't make you a security engineer. Just to let you know I have spoken to the old ladies family today and they told me to rip the old rubbish out and fit a proper system for her, they will foot the bill. They are also going to a solicitor about this and will try to recoup some of her money. Regs:Andy. pleased to hear that, please feel free to ask for any advise you need, i'm sure most if not all the membership (diy or pro) are as angry as you are for this old lady. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 pleased to hear that, please feel free to ask for any advise you need, i'm sure most if not all the membership (diy or pro) are as angry as you are for this old lady. regs alan Thanks for that alan, and for the offer of advice it is certainly appreciated. Although I have been in the trade for many years I do not profess to be a leading expert in the field, like yourself I believe in doing a good honest job as i was taught from a young age that if you are going to do something then you do your damndest to do it right first time. Some ex colleagues called me over fussy & finnicky but this is the way i prefer to be, I detest having to go back to a job before the first service is due. Regs: Andy. P.S Keep smiling mate. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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