February 10, 200818 yr comment_190215 Hi, Can anyone help me? We moved into our current house last year and it has an alarm system with a Eurosec CP8L control panel. It has woked fine for a while and then it came out with an error in the LCD display. It says 'check' and it i try to reset it it just comes with this error 'CASE TAMP' which seems to indicate that something has been tampered with. I have not changed anything or touch any cables, etc. Does anyone now which CASE it refers to?? Any ideas how to reset this? We never had a maintenance contract with any company so not sure who I could call to help and I found out that the company which installed the system no longer exists. Thanks for any suggestions. Susana Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr comment_190220 The tamper refers to the 'end station' or control panel (where all the cables go to). It'd probably in a cupboard or up the loft, it is a white box approximately 300 x 200 x 75. It has two screws in the front. Edited February 10, 200818 yr by BUSTER Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190220 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr comment_190221 never used gardiner kit but have serviced a few and on the old GT800 use to get the same fault with the tamper spring (2off) in the end station compressing over time and giving tamper slight adjustment and norm clears problem . www.AllanMoncrieffAlarms.com Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190221 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr Author comment_190232 never used gardiner kit but have serviced a few and on the old GT800 use to get the same fault with the tamper spring (2off) in the end station compressing over time and giving tamper slight adjustment and norm clears problem . Hi , thanks for the reply but i don't know much about alarms so not sure what the tamper spring is, I am quite technical (in computers ) ) so if you could tell me a bit more about this tamper spring (i.e. where can I find it/how i can localte ) that would be really appreciated. I have the user manual but i don't see any mention regarding a tamper spring. Thanks in advance Susana Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190232 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr comment_190233 Hi , thanks for the reply but i don't know much about alarms so not sure what the tamper spring is, I am quite technical (in computers ) ) so if you could tell me a bit more about this tamper spring (i.e. where can I find it/how i can localte ) that would be really appreciated. I have the user manual but i don't see any mention regarding a tamper spring.Thanks in advance Susana to get to this spring you will need to remove the lid by removing the 2 x recessed screws, which night expose you to a risk of a severe shock as mains is available within this case, and /or a falling battery. so please be careful and very sure to isolate the mains BEFORE you remove the lid for your own safety. you will see the spring near the middle of the pcb very easily, just stretch it a little and refit the lid, listen for the gentle 'click' as you close it, once done restore the power. imo for what they cost, it will be well worth replacing the battery while your at it, it will take a 12v 7amp with care, but a 3amp version will do on small systems like this. if you do as i recommend, the siren if (wired properly) will sound when you disconnect the battery as the mains is already off (it will be won't it?) the siren should sound on it's own battery, no worries just fit the new battery shut lid, restore mains and type you code in to stop it. all you need do then is correct the time using the master code, but it's not essential the system will still work regs alan Edited February 10, 200818 yr by arfur mo If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190233 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr comment_190235 though it might be set as engineer reset required on tamper in which case you might be looking at a new panel Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190235 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr comment_190239 though it might be set as engineer reset required on tamper in which case you might be looking at a new panel possibility, but can't say i think it to be likely as i think it would indicate an engineer needed in the display i've tbh never tried out this feature on this panel regarding tamper faults will need an engineer to be totally sure, if fitted by a sparky it would most likely disabled it to save go backs. my view is on a low end (albeit a very good) panel like this, it is unlikely ever to go monitored so not a feature i would personally leave enabled. who wants to face an irate client getting stuck an emergency call charge because they lifted a detector lid to decorate behind it on a sunday morning? i prefer a quiet life. but other's will doubt have very different views to me . regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190239 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 10, 200818 yr comment_190247 possibility, but can't say i think it to be likely as i think it would indicate an engineer needed in the display i've tbh never tried out this feature on this panel regarding tamper faults will need an engineer to be totally sure, if fitted by a sparky it would most likely disabled it to save go backs. my view is on a low end (albeit a very good) panel like this, it is unlikely ever to go monitored so not a feature i would personally leave enabled. who wants to face an irate client getting stuck an emergency call charge because they lifted a detector lid to decorate behind it on a sunday morning? i prefer a quiet life. but other's will doubt have very different views to me . regs alan ah but you dont fit to regs so it`ll never be an issue for you (nowt to do with comms ) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190247 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 11, 200818 yr comment_190263 ah but you dont fit to regs so it`ll never be an issue for you (nowt to do with comms ) i would never fit a system with out tamper on engineer reset, they could do anything and blame you. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190263 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 11, 200818 yr Author comment_190276 to get to this spring you will need to remove the lid by removing the 2 x recessed screws, which night expose you to a risk of a severe shock as mains is available within this case, and /or a falling battery. so please be careful and very sure to isolate the mains BEFORE you remove the lid for your own safety.you will see the spring near the middle of the pcb very easily, just stretch it a little and refit the lid, listen for the gentle 'click' as you close it, once done restore the power. imo for what they cost, it will be well worth replacing the battery while your at it, it will take a 12v 7amp with care, but a 3amp version will do on small systems like this. if you do as i recommend, the siren if (wired properly) will sound when you disconnect the battery as the mains is already off (it will be won't it?) the siren should sound on it's own battery, no worries just fit the new battery shut lid, restore mains and type you code in to stop it. all you need do then is correct the time using the master code, but it's not essential the system will still work regs alan Hi thanks for the information, I will give it a go tomorrow and i will let you know if it works. Regards Susana Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/22215-eurosec-cp8l-case-tamp-error/#findComment-190276 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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