securitycctv Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hi all Am looking at a job for a local parish council where they hope to be able to obtain some police funding, being on a ratrun road ! Does anyone have experience of a good IP camera that will give good night images where there is only low street lighting, from rural shopfronts and an odd street light. Ability to see, but not use number plates [dont need APNR] Reason for doing this is that they wish to record remote from the cameras at a position that is not able to have wireless, due to line of sight. Any suggestions would be handy John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkie Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hi allAm looking at a job for a local parish council where they hope to be able to obtain some police funding, being on a ratrun road ! Does anyone have experience of a good IP camera that will give good night images where there is only low street lighting, from rural shopfronts and an odd street light. Ability to see, but not use number plates [dont need APNR] Reason for doing this is that they wish to record remote from the cameras at a position that is not able to have wireless, due to line of sight. Any suggestions would be handy John John, I think you need to refine the op requirement before you start thinking about the kit. Are they looking to record numberplates or not? If they are looking to gather evidence, what is the type of problems being experienced? (are we looking for recognition of people or just to record that someone had driven or walked down the road? If this is to be not monitored in real time the recorded image is all important. (size or target, frame rate resolution etc). In my experience if this is about low level anti social behavior CCTV will not be the answer. Any budget could be spent on hardening the area, increasing public lighting etc. Hope this helps Ilkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 firstly how are you going to connect the ip camera - via wireless and access points? IP camera's are limited in design options, and you still got to power it. so my thoughts are, would it be easier to achieve with a portable camera kit and dvr (as used in many cabs) run off batteries, perhaps strapped to lamp post's etc? an issue you might have is displaying the DPA warning signs and keeping log records etc. either way, we need to know what the clients requirements is and want to catch, to suggest options further or accurately. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 John,I think you need to refine the op requirement before you start thinking about the kit. Are they looking to record numberplates or not? If they are looking to gather evidence, what is the type of problems being experienced? (are we looking for recognition of people or just to record that someone had driven or walked down the road? If this is to be not monitored in real time the recorded image is all important. (size or target, frame rate resolution etc). In my experience if this is about low level anti social behavior CCTV will not be the answer. Any budget could be spent on hardening the area, increasing public lighting etc. Hope this helps Ilkie agree - it sounds like a classic " get some cctv - problem solved " whats the budget ? enough for a security patrol maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 As wireless has been discounted, could you not utilise power over Ethernet for the cameras?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 As wireless has been discounted, could you not utilise power over Ethernet for the cameras?? my take on this project is its a residential road due to the term 'used as a rat run', so perhaps no option for direct hard wiring unless a helpful resident is found - so guys watch out for an ip camera coming to a boot sale near you perhaps another idea is to have a system mounted inside a plain car, no probs with battery power at least or get the cops down there with a setup regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickolas Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Dear John, Check Arecont Vision 3130 camera remotely. It is high Definition day/night camera which switches automatically. Install on your PC or Laptop VDR-C client application. Client for Intel processor : ftp://85.219.169.140/ or ftp://85.219.169.140/install/vdrc/VDRC_PR...NAL_INSTALL.exe Client for AMD processor: ftp://85.219.169.140/ or ftp://85.219.169.140/install/vdrc/AMDproc...LTI_INSTALL.exe and visit: DEMO EUROPE GDANSK HDTV: Server Address: dluga.vdr-s.com Port: 9000 Login: demo Password: demo B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitycctv Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 Hi all, Thanks for the replies. I should have quantified the problem a bit more clearly. The Parish council concerned wish to put up some cameras of their own for generla protection ofthe village hall and to move away the usual crew of "hangarounders" from the site. In addition andthis is where the IP comes in !! they wish to put a camera up which will record to their system. IP is not an issue as the building on to which they will mount it is a "friendly" pub that is happy to have cameras mounted as it will give the deterrent factor ro them as well. As for them being nicked, They are to be mounted on to the pub wall at about the same height as their pub sign so will be safe from interference, in addition they are to be mounted in a dome style housing. With regards to number plates, yes they would like to record the image, but no, ANPR is not required. The recording system is not too much of an issue as it will most likely be a wavelet unit from wavestore, hybrid that takes IP and analogue. I have been pointed towards a camera from lumenera which seems to be ok Any further comments welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitycctv Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 PS - Forgot to add another item - They do not wish to record people or general movement it is only for the police to use for further evidence of particular vehicle movements. The road is often used as an escape route back to London by criminals commiting crimes in the local villages. It is likely that the police will monitor the camera as well as it being recorded locally John - and thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkie Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 PS - Forgot to add another item - They do not wish to record people or general movement it is only for the police to use for further evidence of particular vehicle movements. The road is often used as an escape route back to London by criminals commiting crimes in the local villages. It is likely that the police will monitor the camera as well as it being recorded locally John - and thanks again Sorry, you have a confused operational requirement. I would suggest you go back to the the operational guidance manual and work through it. You indicate that there is no requirement to record number plates and then say that the Police will monitor the camera (how will they do this?) to establish vehicle movements. Cameras that are able to see sufficient resolution and high enough frame rate to record recognition of a vehicle require very different lighting and positioning than required for for general public space monitoring which is different again from building protection). Ilkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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